Hi Chaos, I have just added clarification as to the distinction between soft play and playgrounds. I agree that if there was an old fashioned merry-go-round inside a building then it wouldn't be soft play, and would be called and tagged differently. For example, with a leisure=playground and indoor=yes set of tags.
The reliance on the 'softness' of the material in the definition is very much required, because that is the property that defines a soft play centre. I wasn't aware that Wikipedia was missing an entry for this, perhaps an activity for another day... Thanks, Dominic On 23 October 2013 13:55, Ronnie Soak <[email protected]> wrote: > There are centers like this in Germany, mostly just called "indoor > playground". > (I haven't seen one so far, but I heard awful stories from parents all > around.) > > The term "soft play" wasn't known to me and I didn't think of child's > entertainment when I read it > (actually, I thought the opposite). There is also no wikipedia entry for > this. > > After reading the proposal, I knew what was meant and I have a clear idea > what to tag and what not. > But I still find the focus on the quality of material used (both in the name > and in the definition) a bit odd. > > What if there is a toy not made of soft stuff? Like an old-fashioned > merry-go-round? Does this mean the place is called (and tagged) > differently? > > I would propose to keep the name (because it seems to be a fixed UK term > fair enough), but to ditch the "soft play toys" stuff > from the definition to allow all indoor playgrounds to be tagged with this > and to make this understandable to non-UK mappers. > > (I would also be OK with indoor_playground or simply indoor=yes for normal > leisure=playground tags, but I'm sure the original poster wants to > keep the similarity of UK name and tag). > > my 2 cents > Chaos > > > > > > 2013/10/23 Philip Barnes <[email protected]> >> >> My understanding of a soft play area would not work outdoors, at least not >> in Northern Europe where it rains. >> >> >> Phil (trigpoint) >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Sent from my Nokia N9 >> >> >> >> >> On 23/10/2013 13:22 Matthijs Melissen wrote: >> >> On 23 October 2013 14:01, Jonathan Bennett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > In the UK a Soft Play is a well-recognised and well-defined concept. If >> > that >> > concept doesn't exist elsewhere, fine, but don't stop this mapper from >> > recording information because you don't like what colour the bikeshed >> > is. >> >> I think that's too much of a UK-centric way of thinking, which we should >> avoid. >> >> I agree that for the UK, a precise definition is not necessary, >> because we can simply tag everything leisure=soft_play that is called >> 'soft play'. However, it seems that the US does not use this term, let >> alone non-English speaking countries. Other countries might have >> similar (but perhaps not entirely equivalent) concepts. I believe we >> need some kind of definition that makes clear how the English concept >> 'soft play' maps to the variety of playgrounds other countries have. >> >> In the Netherlands, for example, there are paid and staffed outdoor >> playing grounds. Currently, I have no idea whether such playgrounds >> would fall under the English definition of 'soft play'. >> >> -- Matthijs >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
