I definitely think there is a need for this, I can think of many places around the UK this could apply to.

landuse=events is better than leisure=*

Jonathan

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On 09/03/2014 21:31, Tod Fitch wrote:
It seems to me that landuse=events is reasonable. Most of the places called fairgrounds where I am are used for other events other than the traditional once a year fair. There are often swap meets, animal shows, concerts, and other events held during the year. And the area often (always in my experience but I've not seen many) have amenities on the grounds like toilets, food concessions, etc.

Using event_space or event_place seems odd to me: And area already denotes a space or place. We don't say residential_place or industrial_place in our tags, so my preference would be for landuse=events.

-Tod



On Mar 9, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Antônio Marcos wrote:

I've never heard of "fairground", but it seems to be a quite specific tag that could be substituted by or even inside the events area. The events tag is indeed supposed to be generic, just like landuse=retail, which demarks areas used by shops, and the leisure or landuse key before the "events" value should denote that it is an area where events are carried on (like the ones you cited, circus, shows etc.). Maybe, if the area hosts a single type of event, it is considerable to create too an event_type= key that describes the type of event. I am considering changing back the key leisure to landuse, as it originally was supposed to be, because it is a land used for this purpose and may contain facilities (amenities and leisures) used during the events, such as pitches, toilets, bars and so on. An example of an area like this is a very famous rodeo place here in Brazil called Parque do Peão: http://binged.it/1h4EgcT. As you can see, there is an entire area used for it, where fairs are made and several amenities for the public are found: the rodeo event is not comprised only of the rodeo show made in the arena. And there are many other event-designated places in the world, I believe, thus I think OpenStreetMap is really lacking this kind of tagging. Back to the leisure/landuse discussion, stated some points above I think landuse fits better than leisure and I'd like some more opinions on this matter, please, before changing it back to landuse=events. If there needs any other improvement on this tag, please comment. Thanks.


On Sun, Mar 9, 2014 at 4:49 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com <mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>> wrote:


    2014-03-09 17:18 GMT+01:00 Antônio Marcos <toni.o...@gmail.com
    <mailto:toni.o...@gmail.com>>:

        I have created this proposal some time ago for a new tag
        called leisure=events (originally landuse=events), which
        should describe areas reserved for events in a city or in a
        place (more info at the proposal page
        http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/leisure%3Devents).
        Does anybody have more opinions and suggestions on this, please?



    I think "event" is not a good description for a place where
    events take place, something like event_space / event_place would
    already be better, but still seems very generic. What kind of
    events do you have in mind, folk festivals? parish fairs? trade
    fairs? concerts? beer festivals? just to name a few.

    For these maybe "fairground" would be a good tag (not sure for
    leisure as a key, maybe use a neutral "amenity"?)

    cheers,
    Martin

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