Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:


Actually the "source:maxspeed" tag was discussed years ago (2009 IIRR) on this list and by the time approved. The idea to use maxspeed:type instead is very new compared to this, and there wasn't any actual proposal to see whether this was backed by the community, rather then what appears to be a national initiative of some folk in the british comunity in order to make up something different to how it is done elsewhere:
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/maxspeed%3Atype#map
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/source:maxspeed#map

... another interpretation as to what actually happened is that "source:blah" was in widespread use since the beginning of time for "the source of the blah key" (survey, local_knowledge, whatever). Then at some point people decided to use "source:maxspeed" to refer to the zone (e.g. if a road's in an urban area, and urban areas in your country have a 30 km/h speed limit regardless of signage, then it's OK to say that the "source of the maxspeed" is something like "DE:zone:30" or similar).

In the UK "maxspeed:type" is usually used with "national" speed limits, not zone-based ones. The source of the maxspeed is therefore "survey", "local_knowledge" or similar, and "maxspeed:type" is used to indicate that it is a "national" maximum speed limit, not a numeric one. It's important to record what the sign actually says, not just the number that that sign happens to currently represent - historically the national speed limit for different classes of road for cars has changed, and it may again in the future.

There was (a couple of years ago) a significant usage of "maxspeed=national" or similar in the UK. this caused a certain amount of "toys being thrown out of prams" from people (mostly from countries where the posted limit is always numeric) who expected the "maxspeed" value to always be a number. The compromise was to store store the actual posted sign value in maxspeed:type, and what number that happens to currently correspond to in "maxspeed" (and the actual source, if it needs to be stored, in maxspeed:source for compatibility with other source keys).

Cheers,

Andy



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