2014-06-13 14:15 GMT+02:00 Simon Wüllhorst <m...@simon-wuellhorst.de>:

> Hello Guys,
>
> currently I’m tagging the country around my place (farmland, farmyards,
> meadow and so on). Farmlands are typically surrounded or seperated by small
> areas/borders of several vegetations (trees bushes, at least in Germany),
> called Field Borders (or Feldrain in German, more Informations:
> http://extension.missouri.edu/p/g9421 or
> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feldrain). They are important for farmers
> (to improve crops growth) and they also useful for a better orientation and
> navigation in this country.
>
> I started a thread on forum.osm.org (It’s a german thread, so if you have
> questions, please ask me) to get tips for the correct/ideal tagging of
> these areas (important:it’s an area, not a way!).
>
> In summary I got a lot of suggestions, for example natural=scrub or
> natural=wood, ….
>
> The problem of all these suggestions were, they all describe the type of
> vegetation and not the purpose of these areas. Besides the vegetation of
> these areas are much various, so you can’t describe them by using one or
> two “vegetation”-tags.
>
> According to the post of “dieterdreist” (
> http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=422045#p422045) I
> thought about to create/use a completely new tag/value.
>
> At this point I’m not shure which key would be correct. I’m thinking about
> natural=fieldborder or landuse=fieldborder. On the one landuse=fieldborder
> seems to be the better choise, because field borders have got a farming
> purpose. But on the other hand they are grown as they are and are not
> really managed.
>
> So what whould be your favourite key/value for Filed Borders or what are
> you thinking about this topic in general.
>
> PS: After the latest update of the mapnik style farmlands/farmyards are
> sourrounded by a little border. Some people say that would be raise the
> motivation to create smaller seperations of farmland-areas (an own
> farmland-area for every farmland and not a farmland-area for a whole
> region). In my opinion the inroduciton of a Filed Border tag would support
> these idea, too.
>

I'm a big supporter of small farmland areas too, and I'm starting to pay
more attention to what lies between a field and its neighbour. In my case,
though, most fields are rice fields, which are only separated by a small
earth levee (http://www.ecori.it/images/gallery/1.jpg). When they're not
close to each other, it's because a track or a waterway runs in that space.
While some of the larger levees are often lined with trees or bushes, I'm
not sure this would still qualify as field border, in the sense of the
landuse (in other words, I wouldn't think that that vegetation is provided
for agricultural/habitat reasons, but it may be, I'm no agronomist).
Anyway, some such areas have been tagged by their vegetation
characteristics.

I think the best solution is to provide both tags, one about the
vegetation, one about its agricultural function, as these two functions are
largely orthogonal in my view.

Ciao,

Simone
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