W dniu 09.07.2014 2:56, John Packer napisał(a):
Daniel, I don't know about standardization of rendering, but I would say the advice on the wiki is followed by OSM mappers much more often than some veterans think.
Still there are some notable cases when they're not. I wouldn't be interested in rendering now if I didn't have my "favorite" problems with it lasting for months or years, even those easy to fix. That includes fountains and at least rudimentary public_transport namespace representation - these are just examples I personally need and it wouldn't hurt anyone.
I try not to be overly negative with it (no matter how irritated I feel sometimes as a mapper =} ) and go the positive way, so I get involved in openstreetmap-carto. It's just my beginnings there, so I'll wait some time before saying anything conclusive, but for now I'm very surprised how the low hanging fruit can be not picked for so long without anybody noticing it, even if all the code is already waiting to be merged ( https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/705 ).
For me it tells us clearly that at least we should track such things better. If we made just a simple wiki table named "Accepted propositions - rendering state" with current comments from rendering team ("done", "todo - from when", "wontfix - reasons", "undecided - problems to be solved"), it could help us connecting loose ends a lot! I can even do it myself, but I need to know it would be used at all. I don't know yet how big is the gap between default tagging and default rendering.
Yesterday I have watched Andy's workshop ( http://blog.gravitystorm.co.uk/2014/07/07/openstreetmap-carto-workshop/ ) and while it was very interesting for me, the remark about the carto not being made for all the POI icons was against my intuition. I would fully agree if that meant simply "there's more to rendering than POI's", but I'm not sure. I would rather include all such icons in general, because there was a reason somebody wrote it, a community consensus was established and it immediately promotes using such quality-approved tags. If we want to avoid the clutter (which is a noble aim in itself), don't try to avoid it altogether, but rather set the reasonable zoom threshold.
I hope these are things we can fix soon, but for now some visible problems are still unresolved.
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