On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Kotya Karapetyan <[email protected]> wrote:
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/water_tap#Voting I voted earlier today 'no' to this proposal in its current state and provided my arguments. But now I'm asked to forward them on this mailing list (perhaps to see if I'm the only who disagrees). My main concern with the proposal is its collision with the existing "amenity=drinking_water" tag. And we get enough complains from newcomers about our tagging complexity to not create more confusion. The "amenity=drinking_water" tag is old and widely used (82.000 in taginfo). But recently some people asked how to tag water resource which is not intended for drinking like tap in cemeteries, see the question referenced from the "help" site ([1]). I fully agree that we need a solution here but it should not interfer with the existing tag "amenity=drinking_water". I did not follow the whole discussion but when I was called to provide my opinion on the proposal, the first sentence in the wiki says "This is a proposal for tagging of (publicly usable) water taps, such as those in the cities and graveyards. Water taps may provide potable and technical water, which can then be further specified with drinking_water=yes|no. " A bit later, there is a warning about fire_hydrant but nothing explains here clearly where is the difference between "man_made=water_tap"+"drinking_water=yes" and "amenity=drinking_water". And nowhere it says if "drinking_water" subtag is mandatory or not or what is the default value about potability. And we have seen in the past that with such ambiguities, a tag is very quickly improperly used by the community. Between the lines and comments, we see that some people would deprecate the older tag. Why not but then tell it clearly. What I don't like is what we have seen in the past with some proposals deliberately ambiguous about deprecating older tags because they know it is not very popular in the votes, and enforced the deprecation later, when the tag is moved to the "adopted" sections. I'm not personnally a big supporter of the amenity=drinking_water but I think the current proposal is not clear enough compared to the existing tags. Pieren [1] https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/27869/how-to-tag-water-taps-not-intended-for-drinking-water _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
