I like to have those tram tracks as long as possible. So I tend to only split them for the switches, where the route relations need it, or where the combination with highway tags 'needs' it.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/40283768/history 2015-02-09 9:13 GMT+01:00 Jo <[email protected]>: > Hi Luca, > > Thank you for letting me know. That was indeed an oversight. I fixed it by > removing the tags from the little highway part, then combining that way > with the railway=tram. There are no bus lines that are passing that part, > so it's enough to have it as railway tram. It took many hours to > incorporate those tracks, even though we have them as open data from UrbIS. > They have the rails though and we want to combine those rails into tracks. > > If you want to see high resolution imagery for Brussels, the > AGIV(laanderen) is available in JOSM's list of WMS sources. > > Jo > > > 2015-02-09 8:57 GMT+01:00 Luca Sigfrido Percich <[email protected]>: > >> Sorry I meant the railway tag. just added a note on the map >> >> 2015-02-09 8:54 GMT+01:00 Luca Sigfrido Percich <[email protected]>: >> >>> Hi Jo, >>> >>> I was looking closely at your example, and noticed that maybe the >>> highway tag is missing from this way: >>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/40283536 because the tram line looks >>> interrupted there. >>> >>> Sig >>> >>> 2015-02-07 1:12 GMT+01:00 Jo <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> The reason to use separate ways for trams can be seen in the other tram >>>> tracks I mapped: >>>> >>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/50.83181/4.33280 >>>> >>>> You can clearly see that very often the rails don't follow the asphalt >>>> where the cars drive. Cars can make 90 degree turns, the tram rails need to >>>> follow smoother curves. >>>> >>>> So it's only in situations where buses follow the tram bedding: >>>> >>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/50.82432/4.33561 >>>> >>>> that one can have common ways for the tram and that service road. >>>> >>>> * For normal streets we draw 2 ways for the tracks and 1 for the >>>> asphalt road. >>>> * For dual carriageways we draw 2 ways for the tracks and 2 for each >>>> side + sometimes a service way between the tracks, when the buses use it >>>> too. >>>> >>>> It's rather exceptional that the service road and the tram rails can >>>> use the same OSM way. >>>> >>>> Keep in mind it's only a model to represent reality. A model which uses >>>> lines for what in reality are areas, so whatever we do, it will never be a >>>> perfect fit. >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm sure André won't agree with me, but to implement the solution he >>>> proposes, we'd have to restart OSM from scratch. And even though it may >>>> simplify and solve some things, it would make other stuff a lot harder. >>>> >>>> Jo >>>> >>>> 2015-02-07 0:31 GMT+01:00 Janko Mihelić <[email protected]>: >>>> >>>>> 2015-02-06 17:29 GMT+01:00 Luca Sigfrido Percich < >>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> We could also user a lanes modifier: >>>>>> lanes=3 >>>>>> lanes:backward=2 >>>>>> tram:lanes:backward=yes|no >>>>>> tram:forward=yes >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> I think this is the best way to tag this. There's a great map paint >>>>> style for seeing roads in towns in JOSM, and it helps a lot with tagging >>>>> lanes. It's called Lanes and road attributes. Unfortunately, it doesn't >>>>> show trams, but if we start tagging them, it will probably start rendering >>>>> them. Right now, I use psv:lanes:forward=designated|no, because psv means >>>>> all public service vehicles. >>>>> >>>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:lanes:psv >>>>> >>>>> And in my town those lanes are reserved for trams, buses and taxis. >>>>> >>>>> Janko Mihelić >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Tagging mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Tagging mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
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