I added two sections to the wiki - Purpose and limitations to try to spell out what we talked about.
I also wrote that POW on an area as a landuse for most uses will be superseded by landuse=religious, and the POW tag is very important as a tag for a building or physical object that resides inside the larger landuse. I gave an example as to why that is the case. Please let me know if that clarifies the landuse sufficiently. PS I want to use the same exact line of reasoning For landuse=civic (civic_admin, civic_service). Javbw > On Feb 17, 2015, at 6:51 AM, John Willis <jo...@mac.com> wrote: > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Feb 17, 2015, at 1:50 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> 2015-02-16 14:20 GMT+01:00 John Willis <jo...@mac.com>: >>>> So far I have not experienced a problem with adding "religion" and >>>> "denomination" tags to features operated by a religious community and have >>>> continued to use the same landuse I'd use otherwise on the same kind of >>>> feature (if any). What would I gain by adding "landuse=religious"? >>> >>> To map the _grounds_ of religious facilities where the predominant use is >>> worship, and support facilities for the meeting and rituals and various >>> things happen. >> >> >> OK, I think I finally understood the definition, and I agree that >> landuse=religious is a fine tag for these (e.g. including the parking of the >> church). IMHO the wiki page >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dreligious should be >> corrected to be as explicit as you have been here today. > > I'll try to update the wiki today (though I wasn't involved with this page's > creation) and I'll ask for feedback here when I am done. > > >> The words "ground of religious facilities" and "predominant use of worship" >> are crucial here IMHO --- for instance a place where the politics or >> administration of a church are managed won't qualify under this definition >> (but should be tagged as commercial I guess, right? We could still add a >> religion tag there). >> >> Still there will be some strangeness in some cases, as we already have >> established landuse=cemetery, which might also qualify in some cases for >> landuse=religious. > > Although the churches in California I know of do not have a cemetery on the > grounds, every single temple here in Japan does - even the ones in Tokyo, so > finding a very old cemetery hemmed in by a 25 story building, a train line, a > river, and residential housing (and still on the temple grounds) is common. > > There are stand-alone cemeteries as well, and most neighborhoods have little > tiny 5x5m or so somewhat private cemeteries everywhere (every 2-300m or so) > over all of Japan, so I am not saying they are all landuse=religious, but > some larger ones on the temple grounds certainly are, and it is an "amenity" > of the temple - it's a big deal/expense to have a family grave on the temple > grounds. > > Can you have nested landuses? It is clearly part of the temple grounds, and > clearly a cemetery. I would tag it that way, but I don't know if I'm breaking > done rule by doing that. > > Javbw > > > > >> >> cheers, >> Martin >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
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