You should show them RichardF's cycle.travel site as a different way of rendering OSM, and it shows old railways.
Phil (trigpoint ) On Mon Mar 9 16:18:39 2015 GMT, ael wrote: > On Mon, Mar 09, 2015 at 04:14:58PM +0100, Michael Reichert wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Am 2015-03-09 um 16:06 schrieb ael: > > > Well, I have only changed the tag on the bridges themselves, and only on > > > ways for which I did the original (and usually any subsequent) survey > > > and edits. So I am not corrupting other people's data. > > > > Wrong! You have corrupted data because you have changed tags to values > > which are wrong. What about people who want to calculate the length of > > the railway network including disused tracks which have not been removed > > yet (and therefore are easy to reactivate)? > > That is ludicrous. I have changed a few metres only. The error bars on > my surveys of several km of abondoned railway will far exceed that. > > > The edits you did can be described as (semi-)vandalism. > > That sort of comment is unworthy of OSM. I did the surveys. Very > carefully. I tagged corectly as far as I knew at the time. I only > changed a very small section on a couple of bridges to explore the > rendering and was unaware of this hornets' nest of bickering. And > consulted this list. Another mapper who has given no source has added > 1/2 km or more of track that I am fairly confident no longer exists: I > intend to try to survey to confirm or refute, but it is on private > ground. He also added an entirely ficticious section of railway right > across what is now a dual carriage way and other developments. That > might perhaps be near vandalism, although I suspect that he was a novice > perhaps looking at an historical route, perhaps without realizing that > he was modifying the database. > > Your sort of comment to someone who has contributed years of solid work > to OSM is enough to make me consider ceasing to contribute. > > > Well, if these people do not like OSM because /one/ OSM-based map does > > not show a couple of bridges, it is not bad if they do not use OSM. OSM > > is a database and no map! Please explain this if they ask why osm.org > > does not show bridge X. > > Many are likely to be complete novices, and even drawing that > distinction at their first brush with the project might put them off. > If I still give the talk after this reaction, I will pitch as best > I can to the audience. If they are at the right level, obviously > I will explain and illustrate the distinction between the data base > and rendering. But that may be way over the heads of some local > politicians. Or not. > > ael > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tagging mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Sent from my Jolla _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
