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> On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:17 PM, Mateusz Konieczny <matkoni...@gmail.com> wrote: > > "AKA military installations in certain countries" I would happily map > military installation in Russia/North Korea/Iran/USA/whatever - > it is not illegal for me. Maybe they can make laws making it illegal for > their citizens to do this, but is it changing anything for me? There was a big bruhaha about any mappers mapping Israeli military installations. They were deleting everything and leaving notes not to map things on that location, if I remember correctly. I don't know the details, but I imagine that OSM might get blocked in certain countries if certain things are mapped, I dunno. Javbw > 2015-03-17 6:57 GMT+01:00 johnw <jo...@mac.com>: >> so the driveways are bad, but the powerlines are good? >> >> Aren’t the driveways in a substation part of the stubsation, just like like >> all the other detail that is recorded for the powerline system or fence for >> the substation? >> >> I am against rendering.. umm.. “distribution” lines, but if mapping them is >> your thing, then go ahead. the power lines, especially the transmission >> lines, are totally, utterly private , off-limits, and lethal. And mapped. >> The driveway seems to be much less… dangerous or clutter inducing. >> >> Unless it is lawfully off-limits (AKA military installations in certain >> countries) or behind private doors, then anything is mappable. It may not be >> good to map it, but it is mappable. Just like the trees or the tracks >> around the substation. >> >> Once we start doing indoor mapping, then the same thing will apply as well - >> the examples listed below are for private spaces inside a building, and >> those “backroom” or “private” spaces of homes and publicly accessible >> buildings will have to be unmapped in some way. The mapping notes below >> sound good. >> >> However even indoors, the paths connecting to fire escapes, hoses, and other >> safety items in public accessible buildings should be mapped, even if they >> go through a private loading dock or hallway, maybe. just another case where >> mapping a private path might be a good idea even in the future for indoor >> stuff. >> >> some kind of exception for safety or somewhat visible to the public - >> especially if it is part of the road network. >> >> Deleting a driveway seems a bit too much. >> >> Javbw >> >> >>> On Mar 17, 2015, at 8:46 AM, Bryce Nesbitt <bry...@obviously.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I almost, but not quite, pressed delete on these: >>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/272142910/history >>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/272142911/history >>> They're private objects within a private gated electrical substation. >>> >>> Similar to toilets inside people's homes, it feels like these should not be >>> mapped. >>> Scattering access=private tags on the dumpsters and enclosing ways feels >>> like >>> a hack. >>> >>> The dividing line set by the community remains murky. How about: >>> >>> >>> "Please do not map private objects in private space. In general if >>> the object could create a privacy concern, or is just not useful to >>> a member of the public, please don't add it to the database. Note >>> it is fully OK to map facilities within membership or fee based venues, >>> as long as the facilities are reasonably available to members of the >>> public." >>> >>> Examples not to map: toilets in homes, employee only toilets in businesses, >>> private recycling bins, playgrounds in private homes or day care facilities. >>> >>> Examples to map: toilets inside DisneyLand, buildings visible from air >>> photos, private facilities with a history of public "permissive" use. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tagging mailing list >>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
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