Bryce, I think this proposal is far to complicated to be developed on a mailing list. And probably on a Forum. Is it time your bare bones plan move to a wiki page, perhaps as a Best Practice document ?
Then we can concentrate on each section, bit by bit and massage it into something great. I do think its heading in the right direction. But detail, always details .... On Thu, 2015-03-19 at 14:14 -0700, Bryce Nesbitt wrote: Criticising to improve and clarify, not shoot down .... You have not mentioned the process before creation of a Proposed Tag Page. Assume pretty much as now, default being discussion on this List, a Forum or SE ? > This is a proposed new method of managing tag pages. It mashes up the > schemes from Kotya, Moltonel, Hoess, and others. In this scheme there > are five valid states for a tag page: > * Proposed Tag Page > * Proposed Tagging Convention Change or Extension > * Active Tag > * Deprecated Tag > * Redirect > Voting on a proposal opens whenever the proponent decides it's open, > and stays open forever. Votes are not deleted, but horizontal lines > may be placed in the voting stream to indicate alterations to the > proposal. > Now, 'horizontal lines', an innovation. Do you see people re-voting every time there is a horizontal line ? I may fail to do so because its some minor change, unless someone trawls through the history, hard to see impact of changes. What about the process to manage changes to a PTP (Proposed Tag Page) ? If I make a change to a PTP that is completely contrary to its existing theme, is it reverted ? New votes deleted ? And if my change is just a bit contrary ? And so on .... > > There is no specific vote threshold. However, convention is that an > active mapper other than a proponent must execute state changes (e.g. > from Active to Deprecated or back). Essentially the third party > mapper acts as Judge & Jury, evaluating the full weight of the > evidence from mailing list discussion through Taginfo. As we've > learned no one threshold applies in all cases. > Nice model ! "other than a proponent" ? Note use of "a" not "the", at what point do I become a proponent ? By speaking up in List/Forum ? By voting. By sleeping with original page writer ? > > > Tagging changes may be followed by a retagging proposal, after a > suitable maturation period, with a goal of keeping the data consistent > enough for rational machine processing. Now, that needs further details, make no mistake. Please elaborate. > Each state change has a compulsory notification sent to the tagging > mailing list. I think each state change needs to be foreshadowed in the List/Forum. And people given the chance to object. David _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
