Jan, I looked at the link to your home page in the email - wow! 

It looks like you've been all over Africa in that special truck. If the other 
taggers haven't looked, check out the link in his email signature. 

I feel that you know what you are talking about - if you think there needs to 
be a non-designated tag for his situation, I think you have the experience to 
say they exist. 

Non-designated seems a little odd (informal is a synonym) - but I liked your 
word "opportunistic" 

I really like cascading values, like the list I made earlier. 
Then the value list as I see it is:



Designated
Unimproved
Opportunistic
Informal
Trekking 

Opportunistic- 
A designated camp site that is operated by an adjacent business when local 
demand for camping space occurs. Amenities offered are usually part of the 
permanent business, such as a motel. Particularly common in developing 
countries.


I suggested trekking sites because my experience says that very remote camp 
sites in wilderness parks are nice - but shouldn't be given an icon similar to 
a formal camp site or even informal ones like a turnout, because of severe 
access restrictions. We don't want to trick anyone into thinking there is 
anything other than a good tent pitch (no car access, no amenities, etc), as 
the assumption of shelter, food, access or water in a remote environment (and 
it turns out there is nothing) could kill someone. If you feel they need to not 
be included now, or in another tag, then drop it. 

I want there to be a big separation between designated, informal, and trekking. 

Javbw 


> On Mar 26, 2015, at 5:42 AM, Jan van Bekkum <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I agree that we should not use the star system or six categories It is 
> becoming far too complex for mappers and renderers. This level of refinement 
> must be achieved with additional attributes or extra amenities in a relation.
> 
> I really do want to keep non-designated as currently proposed. It was my main 
> reason to start with the proposal. I understand it is not important in 
> western countries, but it is vital in Africa and the Middle East. It is a 
> site with the opportunistic blessing and amenity use of a hotel/ hostel, etc.
> 
> Why do we need to keep trekking? Isn't it a special case of unimproved? 
> Summarized my preference is
> Designated
> Unimproved (although I like the word Basic better)
> Non-designated
> Wild_camp_site: separate namespace tag for unimproved without blessing
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