On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > My first thought is that even fewer people will understand what this is > than understand what a "bicycle repair station" is. As I said back in > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2015-November/027436.html > I'd suggest that you try and understand what's happening rather than just > picking another key name and hoping for the best. >
I've now interacted with over a dozen mappers who used the original tag in novel and interesting ways. The old tag is interpreted wrongly across continents, cultures and languages. *I feel that I screwed up naming the tag in the original proposal, and now I want to fix it.* --------------------- I think most people have never encountered a self-service stand with bike tools. It's just not in their mental set. Thus when the tag shows up in their editor, they mentally map it to the thing they are actually mapping. One of the nice things about the proposed schema is that it involves *correctly* making *two* tagging operations (the generic tool stand tag, plus the type of tools offered). Any node mapped without *both* is mechanically findable, and allows for deeper investigation of mapper intent, and perhaps mapper-to-mapper communication. It raises the bar past the level of "iD brought this tag up for me to use". -------------------- My goal is to enable mobile apps useful to a stranded cyclist. * Thus accuracy is key.* The data is also used commercially ( http://www.dero.com/fixitmap/fixitmap.html - despite the lack of attribution). And in apps such as http://www.bikeaidapp.com/. The current growth in awareness the tag is encouraging, but the error rate is pointing toward eventual failure and irrelevance. I'm not going to walk a mile with a broken bike, unless I'm pretty sure the map is reliable. --------------------------------------------------------------------- The scope of the tag is meant to be DIY tool stands, usually free, usually open 24/7 or as long as the enclosing facility. Examples: - Bike tool stands (such as a "Dero Fixit" installed near bike trails) - Skateboard repair tools at a skatepark. - Ski/Snowboard tuning stations at ski areas or along winter trails. - Perhaps tools for removal or bending of fish hooks, at a fish cleaning station. - Maybe eyeglass repair tools, freely made available by an optometrist? Tool lending libraries ( https://www.berkeleypubliclibrary.org/locations/tool-lending-library ) are certainly interesting to map, but probably something different, as the tools do not remain fixed in place.
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