> On Dec 13, 2015, at 11:48 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Am 13.12.2015 um 12:22 schrieb moltonel <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>> 
>> Customer-only and non-gratis wifi are arguably not "public" but they are 
>> mapworthy. And the subtags to express these are internet_access:access and 
>> internet_access:fee (with the usual values of the access and fee tags).
> 
> 
> +1, it's still some kind of service IMHO mapworthy and particularly helpful 
> for tourists 


+1 

In Japan, there is very very little "free wifi" for customers or tourists, 
especially compared to the US. only a few chains, like Starbucks, offer 'free' 
wifi to any guest. Most places offer carrier based offload wifi (get the data 
off the cell networks) that are not user selectable or configurable (it is all 
done automatically by the phone, and is not for guests). Most rural hotels 
still don't have any wifi. This is changing, (probably more so in Tokyo) but in 
non-tokyo places, "where is 'open' wifi?" is a big deal for visitors. 

Mapping which train stations have "visitor" wifi (for foreign tourists only), 
or which have truly selectable access=customer wifi is really really useful - 
more useful than it would be in the US, where access=customer wifi is so 
prevalent that it is almost expected at any cafe or hotel. 

I haven't been following this thread (so I might be mentioning something 
already discussed), but I would like to mention that operator or brand or 
network is very important. Some are cell service specific (Only Softbank 
network customers [access=private]), some are open if you are a wifi partner 
member (Fon [access=customers / fee=yes]), and some are open with a free 
account (starbucks [access=customers / fee=no]),  so letting people know what 
network operates them (if applicable) is useful. 

Javbw
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