On 3/03/2016 12:23 PM, Dave Swarthout wrote:

I recently discovered a preset in JOSM that should help in my work, shop=motorcycle (See:Presets/Transport/Motorcycle/Motorcycle Dealer in JOSM rel 9900). It is very detailed and would seem to cover every possible aspect of such shops from clothing and accessories to service. But it uses some tags and values that I've never seen and for which I could find no documentation.

In addition to the established tag brand which defines the name of the vehicle's manufacturer, (brand=Yamaha, brand=Honda), brand as a value appears as an offering for several other tags. Here is a section of the Wiki page for shop=motorcycle <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dmotorcycle>

The following is a proposal to put this service variety into tags:

  * /sale=yes/brand/used/no/.../ - sells whole motorcycles
  * /rental=yes/brand/no/.../ - motorcycle rental
  * /repair=yes/brand/oldtimer/no/.../ - repairs / maintains motorcycles
  * /safety_inspection=yes/no/ - inspection
    <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_inspection> of
    safety/emission regulation conformance
  * /parts=yes/brand/oldtimer/no/.../ - sells motorcycle parts
  * /clothes=yes/brand/no/.../ - sells motorcycle clothes / equipment
  * /scooters=yes/no/only/ - to distinguish scooter shops, very useful
    in Asia
  * /services=.../ - other services this shop offers


Note the tag "sale" which can take values of yes, no, or brand. I reckon it means what it says but "sale" seems a poor choice for a tag. (Note too that the Preset does not offer "used" in the choices as the Wiki implies.) If the wording in the Wiki is followed then this tag means the shop sells "whole motorcycles" (as opposed to pieces of motorcycles) of a certain brand. Fine, but the brand tag in the main section of the preset already specifies that, doesn't it? Is it logical to expect a shop selling new Hondas to also sell pieces of Yamaha motorcycles?

One could reasonably assume that "brand" in those other cases means clothing of a certain brand, parts of a certain brand, etc., but what is the value "oldtimer" supposed to indicate?

Thanks for your help and comments.



Most shops sell more than one brand of an item.
And 'sale' is usually taken to be a special event where prices are lower.
secondhand is already in the wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:second_hand ... status= approved .. so you would assume it has been discussed here and voted on. Around June 2012. safety_inspection= ... see wiki amenity= vehicle_inspection http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dvehicle_inspection oldtimer refers to older things.. usually no longer sold 'new' but either 'restored', 'used' etc. Example; vintage and veteran cars.

Presently bicycle shops have a dedicated tagging scheme... are all shops to have there own individual and incompatible scheme? Or can we have ONE common scheme? Please?

I would prefer

sells:motorcycle:yamaha:honda=yes
sells:motorcycle:parts:honda=yes
sells:motorcycle:tyres:yes  !NOTE UK ENGLISH!
sells:scooters:hysong:yes
sells:motorcycle_clothing=yes

Repair, maintain and service .. can all mean the same thing!!!! These can be a separate area.. a 'workshop' with a separate entry and separate reception.


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