Upon further thought on this subject which doubtlessly keeps all of you out of your sleep, here's a short analysis with my conclusion:
dog_toilet: plus: it is very clear what it means, even for non-native speakers min: * we would need cat_toilet, hamster_toilet etc over time. * technically, a toilet is something to sit down on, made out of porcelain with a flushing system etc. So technically, a dog "toilet" isn't a toilet. potty_area: plus: easily expandable to show which animals are welcomed min: it's eufemistic babytalk, not as descriptive, especially for non-native speakers pet_relief_area: plus: easily expandable min: "relief" is very eufemistic, and doesn't even show up in many dictionaries as associated with defecation. Non-natives might easily think this is something completely different So I would like to propose a completely new value: amenity=pet_toilet. It is as descriptive as the best here, but easily expandable. It is a place where pets go to the toilet. Obviously they don't have a sit-down toilet. But "going to the toilet" is a very common euphemism - to the degree that there are eufemisms to not having to utter the word toilet (going to the bathroom). Implied would be dog=designated, as most of these things are built for dogs only. Of course better to add the tag. Other pets could be added with cat=yes, etc. Maybe even toddler=permissive for that Japanese example :) [1]: http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/37176813 2016-11-10 9:37 GMT+01:00 joost schouppe <[email protected]>: > Thanks for the link John! > > Pet relief areas as described in the OPs mail are exactly "dog toilet". > The the discussion went everywhere :) > > Maybe amenity=pet_relief_area is the better tag: it's just as descriptive > as amenity=dog_toilet, but can be expanded to indicate which animals can > use it. I think we can safely say that amenity=potty_area is the least > preferable. > > The only edge case I saw in the previous thread is where there isn't > really any infrastructure, it's more like a suggested area to let your > animals do their thing. But I suppose an extra tag would do there? > > 2016-11-10 1:19 GMT+01:00 John Willis <[email protected]>: > >> >> On 9 Nov 2016, at 11:24 PM, joost schouppe <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Many cities have special little areas which are specifically meant to be >> used as a toilet area for dogs. >> >> >> Sounds like "pet relief areas" you find on motorways. Getting the dog out >> of the car is usually to let them "get relief" by taking a poo. Sounds like >> a similar place. Our nearby rest area has statues of dogs and cats peeing >> in a small grassy area. >> https://goo.gl/maps/gdArtdfbxcB2 >> >> This tag was discussed on the mailing list last year , but I cannot >> remember what came of it. >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2015-May/024673.html >> >> Javbw >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> > > > -- > Joost @ > Openstreetmap <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/> | > Twitter <https://twitter.com/joostjakob> | LinkedIn > <https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joost-schouppe/48/939/603> | Meetup > <http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/members/97979802/> > -- Joost Schouppe OpenStreetMap <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/> | Twitter <https://twitter.com/joostjakob> | LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joost-schouppe/48/939/603> | Meetup <http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/members/97979802/>
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