On 12-Jan-17 04:45 PM, Marc Gemis wrote:
I thought that someone told me it has to be something like
crop=tomato (for fields)
produce=tomato is also correct. There are things called 'produce
markets' where fresh produce is sold. Humm looks like the term 'Farmers
Market' is more popular. Wikipedia has a fair amount of produce
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Produce
produce=milk (some human intervention)
product=handbag (a lot of human/machine handling)
but I'll admit that there are a lot of grey/gray areas (what is a lot
?). But that's life, nothing is just black and white.
m.
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 6:17 AM, Warin <[email protected]> wrote:
On 12-Jan-17 03:22 PM, Marc Gemis wrote:
I thought crop was for farmland, produce for factories in case of
"natural" products such as dairy related goods. and product for
factories in case of more man made products such as hifi, cars, etc.
m
Note the 'ce' on the end of 'produce' compared to the 't' on the end of
'product' ... sorry about how close they are.
Dictionary definition of produce;
Agricultural and other natural products collectively
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As such it includes 'crop' type things.
Crops are not animals .. like beef, fish. But fish and beef are both
produce, hence produce is a wider definition, includes more things.
The difference between produce and product .. is difficult!
A product I take to be something that has been modified from its natural
state ..
Crocodile, defiantly a produce, changed to a handbag is, as a handbag,
defiantly a product.
Shelled peanuts have had some work on them .. is that amount of work enough
to change them from a produce to a product? Flip a coin.
If the shelled peanuts are sugar coated then they are, to me, a product.
On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 2:19 AM, Warin <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi,
Following on from landuse=grass .. I have been looking at appropriate tags
for those areas used to actually produce grass ... or sod .. or turf as 2
other words.
From the wiki I first got crop .. which suits. Further searching got produce
which also suits. I then looked at the usage - crop wins, and then the
values ...product looks much more diverse .. thinking abut it .. produce
encompass crops. I think the reason why crops is winning over mappers is the
wiki page documentation ..
So I have added 3 tables to the wiki produce page; aquaculture, farm and
forestry.
Some of these are present values from both produce and crop usage.
I have tried to organise the farm entries into major groups - flowers and
beans all together for example. There may be others that can be usefully
combined too.
See what you think ... these are all additions.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:produce
Changes to the produce page ...
Shop I have added the comment that these sell things .. they don't produce.
They may sell farm produce .. but they still don't produce it themselves.
I have also tried to make the difference between produce and product clearer
.. though the division will all ways be a little fuzzy.
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On 'my' 'grass' which is where I started .. with the assistance of the GB
list, who should have some expertise with UK English, I have decided on
'turf' as the best value .. and to use it under the key 'produce' with
landuse=farmland. This leaves the abused 'landuse=grass' alone .. I hope it
gets deleted and the appropriate features get move over to landcover=grass.
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