On 18-Feb-17 12:01 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:


2017-02-17 12:26 GMT+01:00 Simon Poole <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

    Mistake #1: assuming that there is a vehicle class hierarchy (of
    any kind).



well, that's what the wiki has in the sentence above the hierarchical scheme (indentation): "This hierarchy is different in each country." It might be different, but a hierarchy "of any kind" is likely to exist in most countries.

    Typically law-makers see no reason to conform to computer science
    niceties when drafting regulations (rightly so) and will simply
    add or deduct vehicle properties in ways that make sense for the
    regulation in question (well most of the time :-)).



when it comes to signs with restrictions, drivers can benefit a lot from a logical hierarchy, because it makes the signs quickly readable. Otherwise you end up with signs like this: http://www.laleggepertutti.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/cartelli-stradali.png

    The OSM hierarchical approach makes sense from a practical mapping
    pov, but will have issues accurately modelling such edge cases and
    I would suggest just living with that.


I still believe we should know what the key "motorcar" is meant to describe (it could also be a country specific definition, must not be valid globally). There's no definition in the wiki, it only states "automobile/cars" and a link to wikipedia which is more confusing than helping.

What does it mean that the "motorhome" is indented in the wiki table with respect to motorcar, while "goods" is not?
Do you then need a definition for trailer, hgv, etc? Where does it stop?

Dictionary motor car: a vehicle, especially one for passengers, carrying its own power generating and propelling mechanism for travel on ordinary roads

How do I know whether a restriction or allowance for motorcars is valid for hgv as well? Or shall I add 33 access-tags on every road? E.g. typically an isolated motorcar=no implicitly means also hgv=no, goods=no, motorhome=no, agricultural=no, tourist_bus=no, bus=no, ... while a motorcar=yes does likely not imply anything for hgv or tourist_bus, but eventually it does for motorhome and goods.
motor_vehicle=no and than add any that are allowed .. e.g. goods=yes and there must be a method of adding time restrictions to that too . eg goods only between 19:00-22:00


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