On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 1:33 AM, Warin <[email protected]> wrote: > On 07-Feb-18 11:51 AM, Paul Allen wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 12:33 AM, Warin <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> I think of table tennis as a sport, so see no reason why the playing area >> for table tennis should not be tagged as a pitch in OSM. >> > > In British English, "pitch" has a specific meaning with respect to sport. > The equivalent in US and Canadian English > is "playing field" or "sports field." It is grass or artificial grass for > running around, and being tackled to the ground. > Grass or artificial grass to prevent injuries when being tackled to the > ground. Grass or artificial grass to prevent the > surface being churned to mud on rainy days. > > It makes no sense whatsoever, in British English, to talk of a table > tennis pitch any more than it would be to talk of a > table-tennis field. There's a reason it's called "table tennis" not > "pitch tennis" or "field tennis." Pitches are large > enough for 22 men to run around on (smaller versions for kiddies) kicking > or throwing or hitting a ball. > > > Dictionary time - pitch... > Oxford - An area of ground marked out or used for play in an outdoor team > game. >
Sounds about right to me. > > No mention of surface or size. As there is 5 a side soccer .. > Which is why I mentioned smaller versions for kiddies. And 5-a-side is often on indoor pitches and often played by kiddies. > The present game of tennis is played on a much smaller are then > traditional 11 a side soccer. > And it can be played on clay. > Tennis is played on a court with a hard surface, not a pitch. Except for lawn tennis, which is played on grass, but is still a court. > Shuttle cock? > Volley ball? > Offhand, I don't know. And don't care. I assiduously avoid sport of all kinds. :) I vaguely remember volley ball being associated with a court. Archery ... according to the wiki uses pitch ... as does shooting ... I'll take your word for it. > > If table tennis is excluded then so should these. And possibly more. How > pedantic should OSM be? > Just pointing out the inconsistencies. These are inconsistencies in the English language, and OSM uses British English. Having a table-tennis pitch is as bizarre as having a rugby table or a cricket court. "Pitch" isn't a good generic term for "playing area." Nor is "table" or "court." If you want a one-size-fits-all term, "pitch" isn't it. sport > Once synchronized swimming became a "sport" the word lost all meaning. Chess has little physical exertion. So would not meet the strict definition > of a 'sport'. I would say chess is not a sport. But the term "sport" has been greatly degraded by people who pursue various activities wanting to be able to compete in the Olympics. But I hate all sport and don't really care because a pitch or court or rink (mustn't forget ice skaters) is a semi-permanent physical feature whereas the "sport" played on it is ephemeral. I tried yoga once. It tasted like sour milk to me. >> > More Dictionary time - yoga .. While you have the dictionary open, look up the term "humour." -- Paul
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