Your point about stopping in traffic is a good one, and it dovetails with the notion that a bus station (amenity) normally includes one or more dedicated bus lanes. Perhaps that can be added to the wiki.
Smaller places and/or transfer points are well covered by the Stop Area concept, which the wiki page might link to. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:public_transport=stop_area Just today I created a bus station that might be better done as a stop area. Comments welcome. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/578003955 The dedicated bus lane had already been tagged "gare routière" (French for bus station). On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Wiklund Johan <johan.wikl...@entur.org> wrote: > I think there is no realistic distinction to be made between a bus station > and a "regular" bus stop. Mainly because each bus stop is different from > the next. One could argue that any bus stop where more than one waiting > area is a bus station, or if it has some kind of amenity tied to it like a > waiting room or toilets. But any stop can have an amenity, and the most > rural and amenity-free stop can support several buses and have multiple > waiting areas. We also have an example with tour bus stops in front of a > tourist attraction: they may be far larger and better than most so called > bus stations even. Should they be bus station too? > > I clearly see the usefulness of having big and small bus stops, but to > give them a definition that works on a step-free scale of difference > worldwide is always going to be hard. > > I think I personally would prefer a large bus stop as an area exclusively > for used public transport bus activity (potentially in combination with > taxi) and the smaller bus stop as a place where a bus can stop among other > traffic. But that's my wish and may not be 1:1 with the current modeling of > stops. > > (by large and small bus stops I'm thinking about the way they are rendered) > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Townsend [mailto:ajt1...@gmail.com] > Sent: mandag 9. april 2018 13.43 > To: email@example.com > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Unclear meaning of amenity=bus_station > > On 09/04/2018 11:55, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > > Currently definition at > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbus_station > > is unclear, it fits two cases > > > > * intercity bus station (routes between cities, importance comparable > > to railway=station) > > * terminus highway=bus_stop (routes within city terminate and start > > here, minor importance, importance lower than railway=halt) > > > > while in my experience tag is used only in the first case (what makes > > sense). > > > > Would it be OK to edit wiki and restrict it only to the first meaning? > > > > Being a bus station or not has nothing to do with whether the routes from > there are intercity or not (though often intercity routes will stop at a > bus station rather than elsewhere) or whether bus routes terminate or not > (though often they will). > > I suspect the wiki author is just trying to describe "what tends to happen > at" a bus station rather than defining it. The picture on the wiki is > somewhat confusingly a combined tram and bus station; maybe pictures of > more examples from more continents would help? > > Best Regards, > Andu > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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