Also I add oneway=no
Salut i marques vials yopaseopor On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 5:34 PM, Tod Fitch <[email protected]> wrote: > > On May 22, 2018, at 12:48 PM, Paul Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > In the case of your typical bog standard American residential street, I'm > strongly disinclined to agree that this is a two lane situation. I'd be > inclined to mark unpainted lanes in the cases where channelization > regularly occurs without the pavement markings anyway. This isn't the case > on residential streets, as people will tend to drive right up the middle of > such streets, only movingly right to meet oncoming traffic and maybe when > approaching a stop sign. > >> > > Hmmm. I guess driving culture may vary from place to place in the US. I > always keep to the right regardless of the existence of a lane markings. I > will admit, however, that traffic studies indicate that the average driver > will be a bit more to the center of the pavement if there are no lane > markings. Similarly, at least in residential areas, it has been found that > drivers will generally go slower if there is no center marking. At least > that is the rational my local government is using to remove the center > divider marking for traffic calming purposes. > > I know that road design varies over the world and even, to a certain > extent, within different states in the United States. So this discussion is > showing different regional points of view. A typical, or to borrow the UK > slang “bog standard”, American suburban residential street is wide enough > for parallel parking on each side and space for trucks/lorries to get past > one another [1]. Typical parking lanes are about 8 feet (2.4 meters) and a > typical traffic lane is 12 feet (3.7 meters). So a total pavement width is > typically around 40 feet (12.2 meters). In some parts of the world, even in > older crowded US cities, a road of that width might be striped for four > lanes of traffic. But a typical US residential street has no lane markings. > > I can see the logic of only using the lanes tag if there is paint on the > pavement. But that leads to another issue: It is pretty easy from > experience to glance at a photo of a road and say it is wide enough for two > lanes of traffic. But it is much harder for me to determine a width > accurate to a couple of feet. I don’t see a way to show a measurement error > estimate [2] and listing something as width=40'0" implies much more > accuracy than a guess based on a quick visual survey or imagery actually > provides. > > I am rambling. To the point, if I were to add my photo [1] to the urban > highway tagging examples page of the wiki [3] what tags should it have. My > current guess is: > > highway=residential > parking:lane:both=parallel > sidewalk=right > surface=asphalt > width=40' > > For the specific example given by the photo, what tags would you suggest. > > Thanks! > > [1] https://www.dropbox.com/s/1g3vt0egw4ntg7q/2018_0523_ > 072821_908_173.jpg?dl=0 > [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features/Units > [3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_tagging_samples/urban > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >
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