On 09/06/18 21:13, Colin Smale wrote:

On 2018-06-09 13:00, Warin wrote:

On 09/06/18 19:20, Colin Smale wrote:

On 2018-06-09 10:51, Christoph Hormann wrote:

    On Saturday 09 June 2018, Colin Smale wrote:

                This analogy also means that competition is
                essential for progress
                in OSM.


        How do we define "progress"? How do we conclude if OSM today is
        "better" than in the past? Are our processes becoming more
        mature? Is
        our data quality improving? Do we have more "customers" than
        before?
        What defined "goals" have we achieved?


    I have not defined progress and don't need to for the argument i
    made.
    It applies for any definition of progress you might have.  Or in
    other
    words: Here it just means the opposite of stagnation.

Stagnation is exactly where we are heading, isn't it?

With the passion shown on some subjects, I'd say OSM is very far from 'stagnation'. :)

To me a stagnant pool is one with no life in it, no movement.
The OSM pool has ripples and waves of different opinions some of them clash and make turbulence. There is life in the OSM pool.

I suppose stagnation is not quite the right word. Ripples are evidence of energy, not progress being made. A boat straining against its anchor can make a splash, but the only effect is warming the sea up a little. I interpreted stagnation as not going anywhere.

Depends on you point of view.
If your the anchor looking back at the boat then it is not going anywhere.
If your the water looking at the boat then it is going somewhere.



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