If the consensus is to change it to emergency=lifeguard + lifeguard=*, then I think this needs to be changed in:
1. The wiki 2. Put forward a proposal to do a mechanical edit to change the existing tags 3. Carry out that mechanical edit 4. Add the preset in iD I don't think it's far to the people who put the effort in to do a great job on the wiki documentation and those who've been mapping to that accepted tagging per the wiki, to change (4) without us first/while doing 1,2,3. I think only then we can propose to osm-carto for this to be rendered on the default OSM basemap. On 17 June 2018 at 16:38, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefi...@gmail.com> wrote: > So, after a few days thought, can we say that we've resolved to work on > asking for emergency=lifeguard to be rendered, which would then go down to > lifeguard=base etc? > > > Thanks > > Graeme > > On 12 June 2018 at 07:43, Graeme Fitzpatrick <graemefi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> >> >> On 11 June 2018 at 17:25, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 11/06/18 15:39, osm.tagg...@thorsten.engler.id.au wrote: >>> >>> *From:* Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com> >>> <andrew.harv...@gmail.com> >>> *Sent:* Monday, 11 June 2018 15:31 >>> *To:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools >>> <tagging@openstreetmap.org> <tagging@openstreetmap.org> >>> *Subject:* Re: [Tagging] emergency=lifeguard >>> >>> >>> >>> > Also, water_rescue_station is probably identical to lifeguard_base >>> >>> >>> >>> Agree based on the description given at https://wiki.openstreetmap. >>> org/wiki/Tag:emergency%3Dwater_rescue_station it sounds like >>> lifeguard_base. >>> >>> >>> >>> Just based on the tag name I thought it meant something like >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coast_guard. The wikipedia page seems to >>> indicate coast_guard is a common term internationally (even though many of >>> the agencies worldwide aren't known as the "Coast Guard", it seems like >>> it's common enough for emergency=coast_guard. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> That was my first thought too, but then I looked at the description on >>> the wiki and it very much sounds like a life guard base and not a coast >>> guard station. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I wonder if any of the current water_rescue_station's are really coast >>> guards? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> That’s certainly possible. If the decision is made to merge these keys, >>> they will probably all need to be manually checked. >>> >>> >>> Err not in the uk ... coast guard is not military. >>> >>> See >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Her_Majesty%27s_Coastguard >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_National_Lifeboat_Institution >>> >>> >>> In Australia that are volunteers that do marine rescue e.g. >>> >>> http://marinerescueqld.org.au/ >>> >>> >>> None of these fit in to the beach lifeguard situation. >>> >>> I have no idea what the though was behind the OSM water rescue station . >>> I think that is just confusing. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tagging mailing list >>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> >>> >> Agree with you that "Coast Guard" is not a one-size-fits-all term. >> >> There is amenity=rescue_station https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/T >> ag:amenity%3Drescue_station, which, to my mind should actually also be >> an emergency= listing? >> >> Looking at that, it appears that the whole emergency= area has been going >> to be cleaned up https://wiki.openstreetmap. >> org/wiki/WikiProject_Emergency_Cleanup - for the last 4 years! >> >> Thanks >> >> Graeme >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >
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