Typical dutch pedestrian crossing is the zebra crossing, it has legal status. The only other areas where pedestrians go first is on a living_street (with the official sign), and on the sidewalk and pedestrian areas.
The idea here is not that the pedestrians are crosssing the road, but traffic are crossing a continuous sidewalk (just like a dirveway exit) hence pedestrians go first. Often there also is a continuous cycleway to cross. The street exit may or may not have a bump, table, lining, lining bricks. There is no absolute requirement, except that it is recognizable exit-style. In practice, it is the continuous pedestrian pavement and lowered kerb which determine the exit_style. There should be no traffic signs nor shark teeth; precedence is implied. The consequence is that all traffic including pedestrians have precedence over all traffic coming from the street exit (or entering it). This includes traffic turning left or right into the exit, which would have to yield anyway, but also traffic coming from across the road if there is a regular street opposite the exit. Does that happen? Yes, it does. I just crossed one on my bicycle. Officially, there is no special speed limit on the street exit. There is a rule: it counts as a special manoeuvre, which means: whatever happens, it's your fault! Nice to hear that Germany has them as well. We're not alone! Op di 19 jun. 2018 03:14 schreef Paul Johnson <[email protected]>: > Looks like a pretty typical Dutch pedestrian crossing? They're pretty > good about organizing things so as to be unambiguously obvious when you do > and don't have the right of way in regards to nonmotorized traffic. > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 1:28 AM, Peter Elderson <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> The street is residential, but the exit is over a sidewalk, with a >> dropped curb. That's the piece I'm talking about: not the street, just the >> exit. >> >> Rules (legally) implied are that traffic can pass over this sidewalk, but >> has to give way to all sides and all others including pedestrians. Speed is >> limited to 15 Kmph (living_street rules). >> >> 2018-06-15 8:16 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer <[email protected]>: >> >>> >>> >>> sent from a phone >>> >>> > On 15. Jun 2018, at 08:04, Peter Elderson <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > "If it looks like a driveway exit, treat it like a driveway exit" is >>> the idea. Don't bother with signs, just use more sidewalk pavement. >>> >>> >>> For me this piece of street does not look like a driveway, I would call >>> it a residential street. In Germany it would probably be a living street. >>> >>> Are there particular rules implied by the paving? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Martin >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tagging mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Vr gr Peter Elderson >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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