I also think the temperature-tag-proposal was very well thought through. This is why I now used it to tag the temperature of the pools.

Am 30.08.2018 um 14:17 schrieb Paul Allen:
On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Warin <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:


    Temperature, I am afraid, is mine.
    https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Temperature
    <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Temperature>


It seemed reasonably well thought out and written. Shame it failed.  It seems it might have been approved had you said the degree symbol was optional.  People could use it if they wished but people could omit it.  Parsers in renderers could cope with people using symbols of similar appearance by simply ignoring anything that isn't a digit, a decimal point and C or F, incidentally handling the degree symbol being optional.  In fact your table of incorrect usage shows the degree symbol on the corrected usages, so it appears even you consider it
optional.

The only thing I have a problem with is referring subjective temperatures to ambient.  For me, subjective temperatures are referred to body temperature.  Is it warmer or colder than me?  Especially when dealing with water I am going to immerse body parts in.  It makes even less sense to consider ambient temperature when dealing with extreme ambient conditions.  An open-air swimming pool in the middle of winter might be warmer than ambient by several degrees in the late afternoon when the air is cooling down but the thermal inertia of the water keeps it warm, but it's still damned cold.  So I'd refer subjective temps to body temp and add "ambient" as an objective value.  Which makes tap water (in most parts of the world) cold whether it's colder or warmer than ambient, because it's colder than me (which is why it feels cold).

Can proposals be resurrected?  Or a new proposal started which is very similar but with changes that might improve its chances of approval?  In any case, I'd use the tag if I needed to
specify a temperature on something.

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Paul



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