Let's scotch this idea of smv straightaway. Whereas PSV, HGV and LGV are well-established abbreviations, at least in UK English, I've never come across slow-moving vehicles referred to as SMVs - this seems to have been made up on the fly in this thread. We don't really like abbreviations in OSM anyway. As slow-moving_vehicle is a bit of a mouthful, I'd suggest slow_vehicle as a reasonable tag to use. Or crawler.

Steve


On 11/09/2018 13:07, Dave Swarthout wrote:

Okay, I guess the consensus here is that, even though I dislike it, I must use the lanes approach. In my original tagging, I had invented a new category of service road, service=slow_vehicle_turnout, but perhaps an abbreviated form of slow_moving_vehicle would be more consistent and easier in the end. In the example provided by SelfishSeahorse, he uses smv:lanes:forward=|designated (as well as its counterpart in lanes:forward) and that seems consistent with other abbreviated tags, like hov and hgv so I'll use that terminology in my tagging. Perhaps someone of you would like to add the smv abbreviation and description to the Wiki.

Thanks for the input and discussion,

AlaskaDave

On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 3:24 AM Kevin Kenny <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    > On Mon, Sep 10, 2018, 14:36 SelfishSeahorse
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
    >>
    >> I wasn't aware that it is allowed to cross a single solid line
    in the
    >> USA. Hence forget the overtaking:lanes:<forward/backward>=* tags in
    >> the example in my last message.

    On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 3:48 PM Paul Johnson <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
    >
    > It's a recentish (late 90s/early 2000s) update to the MUTCD,
    before that you would be correct (and usually as a stopgap between
    striping, places where this is still the case is highlighted by
    signage, but this is getting to be rare as most plsces have had
    long enough to require a repaint if not a repave since then).

    The states have had considerable leeway in how they mark their own
    highways (the Federal government has control only on the highways that
    it funds).  New York has used a single solid white line to mean 'lane
    crossing discouraged but not prohibited' for the 45 years that I've
    been driving here. Prohibited lane crossings have, for at least that
    long, been set off by double lines or by partial-barrier lines with
    the solid line toward the lane that must not be departed from.

    I seem to recall that the meaning of a single solid yellow line has
    varied from 'crossing discouraged', to 'crossing forbidden but left
    turns permitted', to 'crossing prohibited'. The current drivers'
    manual states that they have the same regulatory effect as a double
    yellow line. (Left turns across a double yellow are permitted only
    when they can be accomplished without impeding traffic in either
    direction and only into private driveways, entrances and alleys.) The
    only single yellow center lines I've seen in the last couple of
    decades have been on private roads, where they mean, 'the owner was
    too cheap to shell out for enough paint for standard markings.'

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