At the moment mappers can simply tag by using the name
embassy
high commission
nunciature
consulate
consulate _general
etc.
OSm normally sides with the mappers rather than the renders, keep the
mappers job easy and they will continue to add things.
Make it hard and they will give up.
So I would continue with the present system where the mappers can use
the name to determine the status. If the renders want they can chose;
do all diplomatic things the same (as in now the case)
or distinguish between things .. possibly combining things as you have.
This could be sated on the wiki under rendering.
On 29/10/18 12:45, Allan Mustard wrote:
Here are some rules of thumb:
* If it displays a sign reading "embassy", "high commission",
"nunciature", or "interests section", it is a safe bet that it should
be tagged "embassy".
* If the sending side has made loud public pronouncements and
published widely that its embassies are now called "people's bureaus"
or some other formulation, it can be safely tagged "embassy".
* If it has a sign on it that says "consulate", it is a consulate, and
the sign will specify what flavor of consulate.
After that it is safest to ask somebody at the institution in question
whether it is part of the embassy or consulate (like my American
Center) or not (like TIFA), though status can sometimes be divined by
reading the institution's website. If all else fails, check the host
country's diplomatic list and see if the chief of mission is on it.
If s/he is not listed, the institution is not diplomatic
(diplomatic=other). If s/he is listed but has a non-diplomatic title
(e.g., "director" or "coordinator" as opposed to "ambassador", "charge
d'affaires", "minister", "counselor", "first/second/third secretary",
or "attache") the mission is pretty clearly not under the VCDR
(diplomatic=other). Here we walk a fine line. TIFA is an agency of
the Turkish government, hence diplomatic=other. American Councils,
which operates our American Corners in Turkmenistan, is an NGO
operating under contract with the U.S. government, so our American
Corners are not diplomatic, but rather NGO offices (office=ngo).
Parsing all of this constitutes a good excuse to recruit diplomats to
OSM to help with mapping :-)
Two more examples and I'll stop--I can hear the eyes rolling all the
way from Ashgabat:
* The Apostolic Nunciature in Ashgabat is headed most of the time by a
charge d'affaires because the nuncio is resident in Ankara and only
visits periodically. The charge d'affaires is nominally the "cultural
attache". Since it is a nunciature, we know it is under the VCDR.
* The European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, the Asian
Development Bank, and the United Nations missions in Ashgabat (there
are two) enjoy diplomatic status under the Bretton Woods arrangement
(the banks) and the UN Charter. Technically that makes the EBRD and
ADB diplomatic missions, but we tag them as banks, not as embassies
(under the new construct we might however tag them diplomatic=other in
addition to tagging them as banks). The lead UN Mission, in a new
construct with diplomatic=* as a primary tag, would be tagged
diplomatic=other since its head is called "resident coordinator" and
the UN Mission is covered by the UN Charter, not the VCDR.
Would the lay person know all this? Not until reading the wiki
articles we will need to compose if a primary diplomatic=* tag is
adopted. Sometimes it is not completely obvious and you have to do a
little research.
On 10/29/2018 3:08 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 at 02:32, Allan Mustard <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
* The USAID office is part of the American Embassy but is in a
separate office flat in a building across town, so would be a
node tagged diplomatic=embassy, embassy=assistance office.
* The Turkish counterpart, TIFA, does not enjoy diplomatic status
so would be tagged diplomatic=other, other=assistance office.
* The Libyan Economic Cooperation Bureau would be
diplomatic=other, other=trade office because it is accorded
diplomatic status by bilateral agreement, not the VCDR (there is
no Libyan Embassy here).
* The American Center would be a node in an office building
tagged diplomatic=embassy, embassy=cultural center, while the
Iranian Cultural Center would be a building with the same tags,
since both enjoy diplomatic status as sections of their
respective embassies.
* The Russian Consulate General has its own building and grounds
separate from the embassy, so would be an enclosed way tagged as
diplomatic=consulate, consulate=consulate general.
Thank you for a very detailed, very interesting post, Allan.
One question, please.
Is there any way that a layman such as myself would know that "The
Libyan Economic Cooperation Bureau would be diplomatic=other,
other=trade office because it is accorded diplomatic status by
bilateral agreement, not the VCDR", or is this sort of thing only
known to Govt / diplomatic staff?
Thanks
Graeme
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