On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 7:46 PM Alan McConchie <[email protected]> wrote:
> I want to take your feedback with the weight and respect it deserves. I > see you voted against "boundary=aboriginal_lands" on the wiki because you > prefer "boundary=administrative". Can you clarify more about your proposed > alternative? > > In this thread I see you're a fan of admin_level=*, but what admin_level > do you propose? The problem I see with that tag is that it follows a strict > hierarchy, which reservations don't always follow. It's the hierarchical > nature of boundary=administrative that I get hung up on, which is why I > like that boundary=aboriginal_lands can exist parallel to that hierarchy. > > For example, if we used boundary=administrative + admin_level=3 (as Kevin > Kenny suggested in this thread) that seems clearly wrong for the few > reservations that cross national boundaries, like Akwesasne. > I don't know if a consistent administrative level is possible given the context of each particular tribe and it's respective relationship with the US and Canada. This may need to be determined on a case-by-case situation. I do think that admin_level=3 is a pretty reasonable in the US because within tribal lands, if at least one party is a tribal citizen of the nation they're in, I'm not aware of one that doesn't automatically moves jurisdiction to tribal or federal courts *exclusively,* with state and county courts not having jurisdiction. In some cases, this might apply to any criminal or civil case within the jurisdiction regardless of who is involved. > I can understand how others might see boundary=aboriginal_lands as a tag > that carries less respect. But I don't see it that way. > Part of it is the strong tendency of folks making renders to fill-shade the tribal territory like it's a park, wildlife preserve or zoo. Carto used to have a green "IR" hatch that was almost indistinguishable from the same colored "NR" hatch for indian reservations (which was easily half of my annoyance on the subject in 2013). Treating tribal boundaries as other political boundaries humanizes the situation.
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