It appears in the descriptions that a 'ditch' can be used as a 'drain'. So why have a tag 'drain'?

The only differences I have between canal and the other things is large verse small and usefull quantity. Rather subjective, not a objective measurement. If the differences as so arbitrary why distinguish between them at all?

On 01/02/19 09:45, Sergio Manzi wrote:

Yes, great descriptions!

My only marginal objection is for canal: why don't you ditch (pun intended...) the "/used to carry useful water for transportation, hydro-power generation, //irrigation or land drainage purposes/" clause?

Are there any other "/Large man-made open flow (free flow vs pipe flow) waterways/" that should *not *be considered canals?

My concern is that somewhere in the world there could be a canal not built for any of those purposes and somebody could object to call it "a canal".

Also isn't "land drainage" potentially in contradiction with "useful water"?

Cheers,

Sergio


On 2019-01-31 23:34, Eugene Podshivalov wrote:
Hi Markus,
I find your amendments great.

Cheers,
Eugene

чт, 31 янв. 2019 г. в 20:29, Markus <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

    Hi Eugene

    Thanks for your summary! [^1] I'm in favour of the proposed
    definitions and would welcome if the clarifications regarding
    size you
    made here [^2] were included in the definitions, like for example
    (*additions*, ~~deletions~~):

    canal - Large man-made open flow (free flow vs pipe flow) waterways
    used to carry useful water for transportation, hydro-power
    generation,
    irrigation or land drainage purposes. Consider using waterway=ditch
    for small*er* ~~irrigation or land drainage~~ channels *that directly
    distribute water to or collect it form the land*. Consider using
    waterway=drain for small usually lined superflous liquid drainage
    channels.

    ditch - Small artificial free flow waterways *used to directly
    distribute water to dry land (for irrigation) or collect water from
    wet land (for drainage)* ~~used for irrigating dry land or draining
    wet land~~. Irrigation ditches can be lined or unlined, drainage
    ditches are usually unlined to let water soak through the land into
    them. Ditches may have short lined segments at waterway turning
    points
    or intersections with roads or paths to prevent erosion. Consider
    using waterway=canal for large*r* ~~irrigation or land drainage~~
    channels *that convey water from or to ditches*. Consider using
    waterway=drain for usually lined superflous liquid drainage channels.

    [^1]:
    <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-January/042543.html>
    [^2]:
    <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-January/042551.html>

    Regards

    Markus

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