Hi all Le lun. 27 mai 2019 à 14:55, Philip Barnes <[email protected]> a écrit :
> Generally poles exist in areas built before electricity or phones were > the norm. When I go into the old town I will be looking for power > poles. > > Telephone poles are a feature of areas built in the 1960s, and before. > Since civil engineering and underground ducts may be really expensive, poles are still rolled out in rural areas, at least in Europe but I guess it's a common situation in many areas Some countries won't build underground infrastructure for seismic reasons as well, see Japan. You'll still be finding new utility poles for years In France there are currently around 11 millions of power poles and approximately 5 millions of telephone poles. A nationwide plan expect to see them all removed since 1999 new year eve storm. Actually that's easier to plan it than to do it :) By the way, as we (2 friends and me) were reworking the communication=* and man_made values dedicated to telecom networks with new telecom=*, we were looking for appropriate semantics for poles and lines. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:telecom I would be in favour of man_made=utility_pole or any other domain agnostic tag But as the refinement of power=pole/tower was denied a few years ago, I guess telecom=pole will be used consistently A simple rule to make the choice easier between power=pole or telecom=pole : look at what is the highest on the support Power pole : https://www.aglmediagroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Photo_003_residential_neighborhood.jpg Telecom pole : https://contents.jechange.fr/sites/default/files/poteau-telephonique.jpg Regarding "lines", we should use telecom=cable since most of telephone wires are insulated and distinction between power=line or power=cable is made on insulation Overhead telecom lines : http://www.madisoncountyalert.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Insulator-2.jpg Overhead telecom cable : http://www.khaosodenglish.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/%E0%B8%A0%E0%B8%9B-%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%B3%E0%B9%84%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%A5%E0%B8%B0%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%A5%E0%B8%A2-1024x576-696x436.jpg All the best François
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