I would like to discuss what other tags can be recommended for use on a tourism=camp_pitch feature.
There are already a number of tags suggested at the wiki pages for tourism=camp_site and tourism=caravan_site: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism=camp_site#Tagging - however not all of these tags have been discussed or approved An alternative was proposed that uses namespacing with camp_pitch, eg camp_pitch:drinking_water=yes instead of drinking_water=yes, but I don't think this is helpful - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Key:camp_pitch The most basic tags would show whether the camp pitch (or campsite) allows tent(s), caravan(s) or both, or if there are 1 or more cabins. I've already added these to the wiki page for Tag:tourism=camp_pitch (and they were already on the French page even before this!) caravans yes/no Whether camping in vehicles is allowed cabins <number> Whether cabins are offered tents yes/no Whether camping in tents is allowed (The alternative would be something like camp_pitch:type=tent;caravan - but this doesn't seem as helpful since it requires semicolons in values. I'm not certain about using "cabins=<number>" for pitches, but it fits with the pattern for camp_site and caravan_site) The common keys "capacity" and "surface" can certainly be used with camp pitches: capacity number Maximum number of visitors allowed surface paved/unpaved/grass/etc. The surface material of the pitch The approved keys "internet_access" and "drinking_water" can be used: drinking_water yes/no Availability of water to drink. internet_access wlan Provision of access to the internet, typically via WiFi. We recently discussed this tag for electricity supply: power_supply yes/no Whether the pitch has electricity This leaves some less common tags to discuss: bbq yes/no Whether a bbq (grill) is available (but barbecue_grill=yes is also used) parking yes/no If motor vehicle parking is permitted at the pitch (this is rare compared to use of the key "parking=*" to describe the type of amenity=parking - but I'm not aware of a better alternative) booking yes/no/recommended/required If the pitch can be booked in advance (This tag is not very common yet. Alternatives would be "reservation=" which is more common, or "reservable=*" etc) openfire yes/no Whether an open-fire is permitted or not (This tag is used over 2000 times, though it's definition could be clearer) There are a couple of additional property tags that I haven't yet added. At https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Key:camp_pitch there was a suggestion for camp_pitch:picnic_table=yes/no Perhaps picnic_table=yes/no could be used? 427 uses already per taginfo There was also: "camp_pitch:drain=yes/no" "There is a grey water drain for this pitch." This seems less useful, but perhaps this is for RV/caravans, which I don't use. The simple tag "drain=yes/no" could be confused with uses to describe the type of waterway=drain, so I'm not sure what's best for this. Joseph On 6/30/19, Warin <[email protected]> wrote: > On 30/06/19 09:18, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: >> >> >> On Sun, 30 Jun 2019 at 09:06, Joseph Eisenberg >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Re: "slab=yes/no to show whether there is a slab on the pitch" >> >> I find this confusing. Is this different than surface=concrete? or >> surface=paved? >> >> >> A bit different, yes. >> >> Have a look at https://images.app.goo.gl/2qBV3P3R2wc7wmV27 >> >> The surface of the pitch is grass, but there is also a concrete slab >> in place. You can see that the motorhome on the next site is parked on >> the grass, but their awning is out over the slab, which is where they >> have their table & chairs out. Sites in caravan parks may or may not >> have slabs, & this is something that campers want to know about. >> >> Re: "off-ground only" for fires - this value has never been used for >> the key openfire. I find it confusing; I think of an open fire as a >> wood fire on the ground, not charcoal in a portable grill. >> >> >> True, but they can also be wood burning such as: >> https://www.google.com/search?q=brazier&newwindow=1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjKup666I_jAhWIq48KHUggC_sQ_AUIECgB&biw=1242&bih=603 >> or >> https://www.google.com/search?newwindow=1&biw=1242&bih=603&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=1vAXXdzWI9e2rQHCrJyADw&q=portable+fire+pit&oq=portable+fire+pit&gs_l=img.3..0i67j0l9.14265.21035..21774...1.0..0.187.1916.0j12......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......0i10i24.j7lMvYUZyno >> >> >> >> Some caravan parks will only allow fires if they are off the ground, >> as they don't want their grass burnt! >> >> However, the key "openfire=" has never been extensively discussed, so >> it may be ambiguous in actual use. >> >> >> May be something that has to be done! >> > > These additional tags have not been 'approved'. Adding them to a page of > an 'approved' tag may be seen by some as giving them the same status. > Be careful. > > > _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
