On 06/07/19 20:47, Ferdinand Schicke wrote:

What I couldsee work would be to have additional lit=* values like lit=weak or lit=spillover or lit=10lux


I tired to use my mobile phone to gauge the amount of night light .. it did not work very well at all!

lit=weak is too subjective.

I too would leave lit alone. Either it is lit or it is not.

If you need some measure of 'lit' then I suggest if a map (OSM reference) cannot be read by the present light level then it is not lit.


*From: *Mateusz Konieczny <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent: *Samstag, 6. Juli 2019 12:26
*To: *Tagging <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject: *[Tagging] lit=yes/no threshold

Some cases of lit=yes are clear (direct lighting of street/footway by lamps)

Some cases of lit=no are clear (no lighting whatsoever)

But in cities there is also often strong or weak ambient light, for example:

- carriageway is directly lit with so powerful light that spillover light

makes footway well lit - clearly lit=yes

- spillover light is quite dim but enough to comfortably walk - also lit=yes

- there is some ambient light, but not enough to walk without own

source of light - lit=no

- there is an ambient light, one can carefully walk, but only slowly,

people with poor eyesight needs their own source of light - lit=no (?)

Overall, I am considering adding to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:lit

recommendation to consider "is it necessary to bring your own light source to see it properly"

as recommended threshold for footways/paths.

Any problems with that or ideas for a better threshold between lit=yes and lit=no?

disclaimer: I am trying to make lit=yes/no definition more precise as part of my grant

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Mateusz%20Konieczny/diary/368849



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