Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>: > > While some have suggested that uses of the landuse=* key like > landuse=grass, landuse=village_green and landuse=recreation_area lead > to misuse of the landuse=* key, the landcover=* key appears to be even > more problematic.
The problem is one particular user. The concept of landcover is very clear. Landuse, not so much. > A newer user, Henke54, has continued to create new pages like > Tag:landcover=dunes - > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landcover%3Ddunes (instead of > Tag:natural=dune), Tag:landcover=water (instead of natural=water), > Tag:landcover=hedge (instead of barrier=hedge) and > Tag:landcover=greenery (meant for all types of vegetation? Or > shrubberies? Flower beds?) in the Tag: space. > > I think this shows that the concept of "landcover" is not clear even > among users who promote this key over the established keys for > vegetation and landform features (eg natural=*). It shows this particular user has a problem. I would not say he is ‘among users who promote this key, he’s one user who abuses this and other keys and does not like to be corrected. > What should we do with a page like Tag:landcover=dunes? I already > tried adding a mention that natural=dune was more common and mentioned > on the Talk page that "dune" is a landform, not a landcover, but this > was reverted. There you have it. > On 8/16/19, Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> " it would probably be a lot of work to do this practically" >> >> That's never stopped me before! :-) >> >>> Take all tagging documentation from the wiki no matter where it is and >>> remove everything that is not strictly documenting the de facto meaning of >>> tags in the OSM database the result >> would be a pretty compact body of documentation. >> >> Are you suggesting making Tag: or Key: pages for all of the proposed >> tags/keys which are being used? That sounds like a lot of work. >> >> Wouldn't it be easier to mark crazy/theoretical/bad/abandoned >> proposals as "abandoned" and archive them, and then make it easier to >> search the wiki, including all the proposed features, rather than >> moving them all to a different wiki namespace? >> >> Or perhaps you are suggesting going through the current Tag: and Key: >> pages and removing all of the non-factual information, including some >> pages which are opinion or recommendations. >> >> While this would make a few of the pages shorter, it wouldn't >> significantly reduce the number of pages or the number of tags and >> keys documented in the wiki. Just the Map Features page alone, which >> is only a small subset of the documented tags and keys, is quite >> lengthy at the moment, and it's just descriptions of each approved or >> de facto tag (plus a few others that are in use) >> >>> On 8/16/19, Christoph Hormann <o...@imagico.de> wrote: >>> >>> The problem about proposal pages is that they can be infinitely >>> theoretical, non-verifiable or outright insane. So telling a mapper >>> who is thinking about inventing a new tag to search the proposals if >>> there is one that already covers what they want to do is not >>> practicable. Because even if there is a proposal that deals with the >>> same kind of situation the mapper is confronted with that does not mean >>> the proposal contains a practicable idea of how to tag this. >>> >>> The advisable approach to making tag documentation on the wiki better >>> usable is IMO not to further blur the line between documentation of the >>> de facto meaning of tags by humans and all the other uses of the wiki >>> (like proposals, automatically assembled data etc.) but more strictly >>> separating them. If you (theoretically - it would probably be a lot of >>> work to do this practically) take all tagging documentation from the >>> wiki no matter where it is and remove everything that is not strictly >>> documenting the de facto meaning of tags in the OSM database the result >>> would be a pretty compact body of documentation. >>> >>> -- >>> Christoph Hormann >>> http://www.imagico.de/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tagging mailing list >>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
