Hello.

We are working with SNCF, the french railway company, to provide pedestrian navigation inside and around railway stations in the Greater Paris area. A dedicated routing engine, which provides indoor/outdoor navigation and supports area routing, has been developed – this will be presented during SOTM in Heidelberg.

In order to improve the user experience, we want to provide walking instructions such as "take the exit 'Rue de Londres'" or "Walk through the gate labelled 'Northern lines'" rather than "Walk 75 metres then turn left". Our problem is that such waypoints may have a different name depending on the direction you cross them. The solution we used is to create, when there is such an ambiguity, two destination_sign relations pointing to the same 'intersection' member, one for each direction with the 'from' and 'to' members swapped. Here is an example at Juvisy station : the entrance named 'Accès Danton' when walking in (https://www.osm.org/relation/9471596) is named 'Quartier Seine' when walking out (https://www.osm.org/relation/9471597).

I wish to amend the Wiki to explain that destination_sign relations can also be used for pedestrian and indoor routing, not just at "crossroads". Does that require opening a discussion in the discussion page, or may I just go ahead ?

Now since the routing engine supports area routing, we need to loosen some constraints on the members, that are documented on the wiki and enforced by the JOSM validator : 1/ allow areas for the 'from' and 'to' members, as in this example : https://www.osm.org/relation/9722912 2/ allow multiple 'intersection' members, so that multiple doors can be referenced by a single relation – example in Gare Montparnasse : https://www.osm.org/relation/9823029 3/ allow multiple 'to' members, so that the same relation can point to both a line and an area, and cover linear and area routing (no example but I could create one).

Are there objections to this proposal ? Do you recommend to open this subject on the Discussion page or is it best discussing it on this list ?

Regards,
Antoine.

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