I found 106 of these in France, but it looks that that 104 of these are indications that "there is no bollard" on highway=crossing. None of them is tagged barrier=bollard and bollard=no.
On Sun, 16 Feb 2020 at 17:05, Jez Nicholson <jez.nichol...@gmail.com> wrote: > Looking at Taginfo I'm now in an existential crisis over the 124 bollards > that are simultaneously not bollards.... "bollard":"no". C'eci n'est pas > un bollard? > > On Sun, 16 Feb 2020, 11:31 Florimond Berthoux, < > florimond.berth...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Checking https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/bollard#values >> unremovable is already used a lot, though irremovable is used also but >> four times less. So I guess you can document the value. >> (And no tag doesn't mean unremovable of course.) >> >> I would like to add that there's a common type in Paris "Potelet sécable" >> breakable bollard which are designed to break in two piece if pushed too >> much. [1] <http://urbaco.be/pdf/fprod/FP-BOBSEC(V1-FR).pdf> >> Only a small piece break, so they can be repaired quickly and for not >> much money. >> They are used a lot when firemen should be able to go with their trucks >> on an pedestrian area. >> >> No sure if those breakable bollards should be tag as bollard=unremovable >> with subtag (unremovable=breakable) or directly bollard=breakable. >> >> >> [1] http://urbaco.be/pdf/fprod/FP-BOBSEC(V1-FR).pdf >> <http://urbaco.be/pdf/fprod/FP-BOBSEC(V1-FR).pdf> >> >> Le sam. 15 févr. 2020 à 19:54, Hauke Stieler <m...@hauke-stieler.de> a >> écrit : >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> there's the "bollard" key with documented value "rising" and "removable" >>> [0] but I often encounter also bollards which cannot be removed easily. >>> I would love to see the "unremovable" value in the documentation. Should >>> I open a proposal page for this one value? That sounds a bit of an >>> overkill to me. >>> >>> My suggestion is the value "unremovable": >>> A bollard which cannot be removed without destroying it or at least >>> cause severe damage to it. A bollard which can only be removed by >>> authorized people with some sort of key is still "removable". >>> >>> I would not use the value "fixed" or "irremovable" for two reasons: The >>> "unremovable" value is used more often [1] and would be a good >>> counter-value for "removable". >>> >>> Hauke >>> >>> [0] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bollard >>> [1] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=bollard#values >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tagging mailing list >>> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >>> >> >> >> -- >> Florimond Berthoux >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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