My point is : don't merge features in the same tag ! That makes thing more difficult to tag and more difficult to consume. Indonesia is big but world is bigger, and I'm pretty sure we can find examples where different kind of vehicles shares the same taxi spot.
(You can use any british word for that taxi spot tag I don't mind). Le ven. 21 févr. 2020 à 08:32, Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> a écrit : > > In Paris there are parking shared between bicycle and motorcycle, and > parking shared between bicycle and dock less vehicles (scooters). > > Unlike parking spaces, a motorcycle taxi stand is never shared between > motorcycles and cabs or tricycles here in Indonesia, since each type > of vehicle has different characteristics: speed, capacity, distance > that can be traveled. The markets and the prices are different. > > Often a market or train station will have 3 stands for 3 types of > hired vehicles (motorcycles, taxicabs, and pedicabs/tricycles), with > each at a separate corner, or on different sides of the street. > > > amenity=taxi > > taxi:motorcycle=yes > > taxi:car=yes > > taxi:tricycle=yes > > This is discussed in the proposal page: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:amenity%3Dmotorcycle_taxi#Why_not_use_amenity.3Dtaxi.3F > > While some have proposed using {{tag|amenity|taxi}} plus the > additional tags {{tag|motorcar|no}} + {{tag|motorcycle|yes}} for > motorcycle taxi stands, this has several disadvanages: > 1) It would imply that a taxicab and a hired motorcyle "ojek" are the > same feature. > 2) it requires using 3 tags instead of one. > 3) If only amenity=taxi is tagged, it would now become ambiguous: is > this actually a taxicab stand, or might it be a motorcycle stand which > is missing a tag? > 4) It will confusing for travelers who generally expect a "taxicab" to > be 4-wheeled motorcar capable of carrying at least 4 passengers and > their luggage. This is quite different than a motorcycle which can > only carry one passenger with a small amount of baggage. > 5) Many database users currently interpret {{tag|amenity|taxi}} as a > motorcar taxicab via use of a standard "taxi" icon such as > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Taxi_Icon.png - this would be > broken by such a change. > 6) Motorcyles have different abilities: In contrast to a family or > group which needs a 4 to 6 seat taxicab, single travelers may strongly > prefer to hire motorcycles when available, due to their lower cost and > ability to fit through smaller spaces in congested cities and rural > areas with narrow roads and paths. Motorcar taxicabs with 4 wheels in > 2 tracks cannot access {{tag|highway|path}} features and narrow roads, > but motorcycles may be permitted and feasible due to their narrow > width and single track. > > So a different tag is proposed to avoid confusion and more precisely > tag these features. > > > > On 2/21/20, Florimond Berthoux <florimond.berth...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm always suspicious about tags with underscore in it, because they > often > > mix different features together. > > My examples are parking, bicycle_parking, motorcycle_parking. In Paris > > there are parking shared between bicycle and motorcycle, and parking > shared > > between bicycle and dock less vehicles (scooters). > > Creating a new key for each combination would be awful. > > > > So I prefer to split the amenity "you can pay someone there to have a > ride" > > and what kind of vehicles you can find there. > > That could looks like this: > > amenity=taxi > > taxi:motorcycle=yes > > taxi:car=yes > > taxi:tricycle=yes > > ... > > > > (or other more British words ;) > > > > > > Le jeu. 20 févr. 2020 à 08:50, Joseph Eisenberg > > <joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com> > > a écrit : > > > >> I would like to formally request comments on the proposal for > >> amenity=motorcycle_taxi: > >> > >> "A place where motorcycle taxis wait for passengers" > >> > >> > >> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:amenity%3Dmotorcycle_taxi > >> > >> In many countries, motorcycles for hire are much more common than > >> automobile taxis. > >> > >> In these places, motorcycle drivers wait at stands, often with a small > >> shelter, and they can be hired to take one or more passengers to > >> various destinations. A fare is paid for a one-way trip. The passenger > >> usually rides behind the driver. In some countries two or even three > >> passengers can be carried on one motorcycle "taxi". > >> > >> Motorcycle taxis are also known as "motos" or "bike taxi", or by other > >> local names, such as "ojek" here in Indonesia and in Singapore, > >> "boda-boda" in Uganda, and "okada" in Nigeria. > >> > >> While some have proposed using amenity=taxi plus additional tags for > >> motorcycle taxi stands, this is quite confusing for travelers who > >> generally expect a "taxi" to be 4-wheeled motorcar capable of carrying > >> 4 people and luggage. So a different tag is proposed to avoid > >> confusion and more precisely tag these features. > >> > >> - Joseph Eisenberg > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Tagging mailing list > >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >> > > > > > > -- > > Florimond Berthoux > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- Florimond Berthoux
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