On 1/5/20 9:00 pm, Florimond Berthoux wrote:
+1 for highway=pedestrian + area=yes
That how we map a town square in France (and every where else I guess ?)
To me highway=pedestrian is more for where for where foot traffic passes
rather than a place where people stop and meet.
Le mer. 29 avr. 2020 à 23:18, Joseph Eisenberg
<joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com <mailto:joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>> a écrit :
I agree, the area in this spot
(https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/jYNQFMwHiNEZRCnpi71heA) is a
moderly sized open area of bare earth, with buildings on 3 sides
and a paved streets on a long side. It appears to be used for
sports and recreation, and for walking. I suspect it might be a
"de facto" leisure=pitch - in the USA it would be an "empty lot"
used for soccer/baseball/etc. It could also be a
highway=pedestrian + area=yes - an open pedestrian area or "town
square" - those are usually paved in some way in developed
countries, but that's not a requirement. It does not appear to be
a park.
There was not any formal discussion to deprecate leisure=common,
and mappers are certainly free to keep using that tag. It was
marked as deprecated by one wiki user, about a year ago.
But since the tag it is not well defined, it will be hard for
database users to interpret what it means.
-- Joseph Eisenberg
On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 1:41 PM Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
<tagging@openstreetmap.org <mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> wrote:
Apr 29, 2020, 21:37 by skqu...@rushpost.com
<mailto:skqu...@rushpost.com>:
On 4/29/20 14:34, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
Here is a 360° picture of a square in Dakar:
https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/jYNQFMwHiNEZRCnpi71heA
- larger than a
street (it occupies a whole city block), used as a
multipurpose common
area (pickup soccer games are a staple but parking or
lounging around
also occur, and the occasional popular event) and
usually surfaced with
sand or whatever the ground is.
We have long tagged it leisure=common (389 ways in
Senegal and 486 in
Mali according to http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/TqN) -
which is a bit of
stretch from the British legal definition, but worked
well enough and
did not conflict with its British usage. But
leisure=common is now
deprecated
So, what should we use instead ?
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dcommon
suggests using
leisure=park - which isn't too much of a stretch
functionally but evokes
greenery that does not occur here (though British
commons are just as
green and we were happy with leisure=common)... Any
other ideas ? Or I'm
going to use leisure=park+surface=sand !
While leisure=park might work, there is also
leisure=recreation_ground
to consider.
leisure=recreation_ground sounds fitting to me and is without
baggage of legal
status bundled into leisure=commons
This specific place looks like leisure=pitch. And for example
in Poland some
sport pitch may be used for an occasional event, festival of
various types.
Note: I am unfamiliar with on-the-ground situation in Africa
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