What is a recreational route and how's it got anything to do with talking about modality?
On Mon, Jul 13, 2020 at 1:25 PM Peter Elderson <[email protected]> wrote: > Nederland, Germany and Belgium also have walking routes, horse routes, > inline-skating routes, canoe routes, motorboat routes. Also a myriad of > node networks for all the modalities, some completely developed and > covering the country (cycling node networks), some almost nation-wide but > locally or regionally maintained (walking node networks), some in the early > stages but spreading rapidly, also to other countries (Austria, France, > Spain). > The lXn, rXn, nXn, iXn system, combined with network:type=node_network, > operator, and ref, , covers all recreational routes, in many countries with > very different systems of administration and maintenance. > > If there is a conflict between the use of those routes and the highway > road routes coding system, that would be a problem requiring a solution. > Perceived inconsistency between clearly different uses of the route > relation iis not. > > I think this recreational route network coding has earned its place. > Still, if an actual problem arises, I would be happy to help solve it. I > know some people think the network=XXn system is principally flawed and > should never have been approved, but I have yet to see one actual problem > and it appears to do the job around the world, for recreational routes of > all scopes and modalities, even though countries have very different > administration and maintenance systems from completely central to > distributed and chaotic, and different for most modalities. > > Best, Peter Elderson > > > Op ma 13 jul. 2020 om 18:51 schreef Volker Schmidt <[email protected]>: > >> >> >> >> I am not saying get rid of the network tag, I am saying we should be >>> consistent. In the above case, if network=UK (instead of network=ncn), >>> one would know it is national. First because the UK is a nation and there >>> is no smaller jurisdiction that follows "UK" in the tag, and because there >>> would be cycle routes all over the UK where network=UK. >>> >> >> >> Numbering in the UK reflects the "importance" of a route: >> National routes carry two-digit numbers >> Regional routes carry three-digit numbers >> Local cycle routes are less consistently labelled. >> OSM, born in the UK has inherited this approach >> >> The UK national bicycle network is managed by Sustrans - see >> https://www.sustrans.org.uk/national-cycle-network >> >> Similarly tiered systems exist in the Netherlands and Germany. >> >> In Italy there is a similar approach, that mirrors the administrative >> organisation of the country: National routes connect several regions. >> Regional routes connect severela provinces and local routes are typically >> within a single province. >> >> Volker (Italy) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> >> Virus-free. >> www.avast.com >> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> >> <#m_-2347637413674922412_m_-5475564013638110848_m_3447769538172802524_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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