Oct 2, 2020, 19:56 by [email protected]: > > The aim of this proposal is to establish a new tag for a type of „shops“ that > are way less professional as the „normal“ shops. > > This would result in all "less professional" shops - from one selling herbs to one selling electronics to use one shop value. I also think that usual shop=* tagging is perfectly fine to be used on "less professional" shops, no matter what kind of "less professional" we take. > > I agree absolutely that somone who makes bread by itself and sells that in > front of its house, we should tag it by shop=bakery. So the grade of > „selfmadeness“ does not matter. > > > > > > Thanks also for the ideas around the tag shop=farm. But I think, what I mean > is more specific. If I would use shop=farm I would expect a proper store with > counter and staff. I think the idea of improving it by using > openeing_hours="by appointment" is a good objection. Problem here: How can > the goods be further specified? How can it be stated that horse manure can > (also) be bought in this shop=farm? Or game (regardless of whether it was > created through breeding or was shot by the hunter)? I think these products > are not that typical for a shop = farm. Or the other way around: By using > shop=farm you cannot find any places (e.g. via overpass) where horse manure > can be bought. > > There were some attempts to tag what is sold in a shop, product by product. See https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org//search?q=sells or even weirder tag soup like https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/dried_fruits that I used twice. Nothing really popular, but sells:horse_manure=yes can be used > > I hope at this Point it is clear what is meant by the proposal. (Maybe the > name „direct_marketing“ is confusing – feel free to make suggestions) > > Do not attempt to put different shop types in one shop tag "honey can be obtained directly from the beekeeper" shop=honey seems to fit https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Ashop%3Dhoney https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:craft%3Dbeekeeper even recommends "The beekeeper might sell their products from their workplace, use shop=honey in this case." "game from the forester" sounds like shop=butcher (not sure, never encountered something like that) craft=hunter (???) > > > Another idea I like is to use craft=* in combination with direct_marketing=*. > Inquiry here: which values you want to use? Something like „game“ and > „horse_dung“ (separated by semikolon) or just „yes“? And of course the > challenge here is to find a „craft“-value for all issues. > > "direct marketing" in English means something specific - see. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_marketing direct_sale_from_producer=yes (????) > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Von: > Niels Elgaard Larsen <mailto:[email protected]> > > Gesendet: > Freitag, 2. Oktober 2020 13:44 > > An: > [email protected] > > Betreff: > Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (shop=direct marketing) > > > > > > > > > > Wieland Kestler: > > Hi everyone! > > > > > > > > Due to the discussion in the german OSM-Telegram-group I made a proposal > for tagging > > points where people can buy e.g. game (meat) directly from the forester. > > What does "directly" mean? > > That forester probably did not shoot the animal himself. He most likely is > not > allowed to butcher it. And it might not actually be him selling the meat > when you > pick it up. > > shop=farm might be a stretch for game, although I do know a place selling > deer meat > that have all the deers inside a big fence. > > shop=farm is already used for eggs and honey. > I would also assume that horse dung being sold usually does not come from > wild horses. > > As for shop=farm not being permanently available, we have the > "opening_hours" and > "seasonal" tags. We can also use shop=farm,openeing_hours="by appointment" > if there > is not a shop infrastructure. > > > > > > > For more details see the proposal page: > > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/shop%3Ddirect_marketing > > > > For comments use the discussion page: > > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/shop%3Ddirect_marketing > > > > > > > > Tanks! > > > > > > > > Wieland > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tagging mailing list > > [email protected] > > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > > > -- > Niels Elgaard Larsen > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > > > > >
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