Ah yes, I temporarily forgot that we have other street view sites! Thank you for that subtle nudge.
I pulled up this [1] example at random, which is tagged in the map with hazard=cyclists (on a stretch of way). I assume this means (in this specific case) "cyclists enter the roadway 100m ahead". Next randomly selected example [2] in Poland is a spot where a signed bike lane ends and cyclists begin sharing the road with cars. Now admittedly, 239 usages is a tiny amount of existing usage, but the way I've described it in the proposal seems consistent with how mappers have actually used this tag so far (bike in road hazards). I also recently changed over the example image in the proposal to a MUTCD-style "share the road with bicycles" sign, which is a less ambiguous descriptor than the red-triangle-with-a-bicycle variants. I tend to favor formalizing existing usage rather than inventing new tags, as well as more concise tags instead of verbose ones. If there is a consensus that hazard=cyclists will be misused if approved and documented, we can change it to something invented like hazard=cyclists_in_road. If there isn't a consensus on what to do with this value, I would just drop this particular value from the proposal as a future problem in order to approve the set of tags that we all agree on! [1] https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=49.31666000000001&lng=8.407069999999976&z=18&focus=photo&pKey=BoYvMnLxXMr0KaUmIDPxhg [2] https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=53.50421582735714&lng=14.477556379223921&z=17&focus=photo&pKey=aaBuvm_A9utc1PYDRyGyXw&x=0.5085941428184124&y=0.5962547075134255&zoom=0 On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 6:45 PM Martin Koppenhoefer <[email protected]> wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 7. Dec 2020, at 00:17, Brian M. Sperlongano <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > The largest existing use of hazard=cyclists is in Germany. There is no > Google StreetView in Germany > > > of course there is > > > > , but from the small number examples [1] I looked at, it seems like this > tag is being used for "cyclists in the road" hazards and not "cyclist > crossings" > > > I have looked it up, and until 2013 the sign was called “crossing > cyclists” while it is now called “cyclists”. It is typically set up before > bicycle crossings or before a separate cycleway merges with the road. > > Cheers Martin > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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