On Jan 29, 2023, at 5:31 AM, Florian Lohoff <f...@zz.de> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 29, 2023 at 12:12:06AM +0000, Philip Barnes wrote:
>> 
>> When I first encountered Canadian four way stops in 1980, I did think these 
>> should be mini-roundabouts. 
> 
> Thats the main point. In Germany we have a solution of "last resort"
> which is called "Rechts vor links" - So when there is no other 
> rules of priority its "Right before left".
> 
> Other jurisdications dont have this so there is a problem with producing
> junctions with "equal priority". The UK solution is the "mini
> roundabout".

I don't usually jump on a post simply to disagree with it (it makes me sound 
"simply contrarian" and "argument provoking," which I am not), but I must do so 
here and now.  I am not an attorney.  In my state of California in the USA, at 
four-way stop-signs, we have a right-of-way law (California Vehicle Code §21800 
et al) which states essentially the same thing as what Florian calls Germany's 
"last resort:"  it says

"When two vehicles enter an intersection from different highways at the same 
time, the driver of the vehicle on the left shall yield the right-of-way to the 
vehicle on his or her immediate right."

So, please don't say "other jurisdictions don't have this," as obviously, some 
do.  Thank you.
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