I'm not sure I see the point of cycleway:lanes. Bicycle lanes are lanes and should be included with the rest of the lane tagging orthogonally.
On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 6:11 AM [email protected] < [email protected]> wrote: > This came up because when I documented "cycleway:lanes"[1], I initially > wrote that bicycle:lanes is an alternative (which for me, it is) but a user > complained that it's "cycleway:lanes" which denotes this and I've decided > to remove this after a while after some back and forth. > > The reason why I see "bicycle:lanes" as an alternative to "cycleway:lanes" > is that "cycleway=lane" is an artifact when per-lane access wasn't invented > back in the day (akin to how "cycleway=opposite" became obsolete by > "oneway:bicycle=no" for one-way traffic, my proposal to deprecate > "busway=lane" because of the overlap with "bus:lanes" and I also consider > "cycleway=share_busway" to also be deprecated) and most likely never would > have existed had bicycle:lanes been invented first. > Case in point, I don't see any purpose in using "cycleway:lanes" at all > when "bicycle:lanes" exist and use at most "cycleway:<side>" to satisfy QA > like SC. > (I know that bicycle lanes was brought up during the proposal but given my > stance on "busway=lane", I would actually advise against "cycleway:lanes" > if I were an active OSM user during the proposal.) > > The problem is that the opposite party mentioned about potential > customer-only bicycle lanes and that the only way to be sure is with > "cycleway:lanes". I countered this with two problems: What about > motorcycles (since there is no widespread "motorcycleway" tag) and are tags > like "customer" and "private" even defined for "access:lanes" (which IMO > should gets its own page instead of redirecting to "access")? The idea with > the latter is that ":lanes" never went in depth with the "access" key and > although "access:lanes"-exclusive values were invented, they were after > "*:lanes" was defined. > > [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:cycleway:lanes > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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