Please call "size" "length" 

>>>>> "Stu" == Stu Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
    Stu> Hi Rahul.  It would make a nice wiki page.  I'll try to
    Stu> put something up over the next few days.  The only
    Stu> reason I didn't post my test files/scripts is because
    Stu> the content is clearly client-oriented.  I hope the
    Stu> patch gets accepted to htmlunit shortly, since patching
    Stu> is by far the trickiest part of what needs to be done.
    Stu> The writing of scripts is pretty trivial - I found I
    Stu> spent the same amount of time writing regression scripts
    Stu> as I had done creating a "test jsp" with links to the
    Stu> same content for visual inspection.
    Stu> 
    Stu> I have a few RDC questions for you.  There are a few
    Stu> things we'd like to do, some of which will require
    Stu> changes to the RDCs.  I'll be doing that over the next
    Stu> week probably, but would like to bounce them off you
    Stu> first to make sure I'm going in the right direction.
    Stu> 
    Stu> First, we need validation that in put is an exact size,
    Stu> rather than just a range, for alpha, digit and alphanum.
    Stu> Range works, but the error message is goofy.  The change
    Stu> looks straightforward, and I was thinking of making the
    Stu> new attribute "size."
    Stu> 
    Stu> The main thing though is to find or make a way to
    Stu> specify custom grammars for standard RDCs.  For
    Stu> instance, date.grxml allows year to be optional, which
    Stu> for our purposes will never be the case.  We'd also like
    Stu> to narrow some of the grammars that accept wider input
    Stu> than we need, to improve the accuracy of speech
    Stu> recognition.  These are generally minor tweaks, and do
    Stu> not change the contract between the grammar and the RDC.
    Stu> I see in fsm-input where these are set, and that there's
    Stu> flexibility to have inline grammars and arrays of
    Stu> either.  I didn't see a mechanism for specifying
    Stu> overrides for default grammars though.  I think it would
    Stu> be ideal if this were doable at the per-instance level
    Stu> and also per-application level, the later possibly via
    Stu> an init param to the grammer servlet.  Speaking of
    Stu> which, though I haven't thought through all the way how
    Stu> to implement this yet, I suspect we're going to bump
    Stu> head-on into the GrammarServlet's dependence on the
    Stu> taglibs-rdc.jar.  Will we have to break this up to
    Stu> implement this?  Maybe if it pulled grammars from the
    Stu> classpath instead?
    Stu> 
    Stu> Thanks for giving credit for my little wiki page :-).
    Stu> There will be more!  We're just starting to hit stride
    Stu> in design of our first app, with many to go.  We have
    Stu> some interesting things planned that should stretch RDCs
    Stu> a bit too.  I'll definitely bounce ideas off of the list
    Stu> before jumping in then too, but this is enough for now.
    Stu> 
    Stu> Oh, before I forget, I really do need to send you a
    Stu> simple example of the jsp forwarding problem with
    Stu> struts-submit.  I'm now redirecting between all struts
    Stu> actions so that no more than 1 JSP ever renders within a
    Stu> single request.  I understand this works in Tomcat, but
    Stu> WAS 6.0.1 (haven't applied the 6.0.2 patch yet) the
    Stu> voice interpreter errors out with prolog complaints.
    Stu> Recreating it is pretty simple, and you might even hit
    Stu> it with the example apps.  If not, I'll try to find time
    Stu> to create a simple example, or maybe just send you
    Stu> something offline.  As I mentioned before, my theory is
    Stu> that (assuming it isn't "operator error" :-) the spec is
    Stu> vague about what happens to the buffer when forwarding
    Stu> through a mechanism other than jsp:forward.  At least
    Stu> that's how it read to me a few weeks ago - I think I
    Stu> mentioned sections in the last post on the topic.
    Stu> 
    Stu> No biggie for us.  Redirecting works fine, though we'd
    Stu> prefer not to do that forever.
    Stu> 
    Stu> Stu
    Stu> 
    >> Stu -
    >> 
    >> I haven't tried canoo, I'm hoping to soon now, based on
    >> your feedback. It would be great if you could take your
    >> previous email and create a new tutorial page on the wiki
    >> [
    >> http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-taglibs/ReusableDialogComponents/
    >> Tutorials ]. You've done all the work for the new
    >> tutorial, maybe slap three curly brackets around the patch
    >> and we should have a very useful wiki page ;-)
    >> 
    >> Thanks Stu!  -Rahul
    >> 
    >> P.S.-I added a line for credits on your TryingOut
    >> tutorial, a trivial update from me earlier left no
    >> indication who the original author was - for the casual
    >> surfer atleast.
    Stu>

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--raman
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