On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 1:33 AM, John Henderson <[email protected]> wrote:
> A major advantage I see is little or no inconsistency in the way > different people tag routes. There will inevitably be disagreement > about the RWN/LWN decision point, but that's better than having > confusion about NWN/RWN as well. I can see that being a problem in Europe, but since Australia has no land borders, not a problem here. Consistency is a means to an end, not a goal in its own right. > In fact, a lot of those eyeing Aussie walking tracks online will be > European backpackers, and they'll surely expect to see what I'm proposing. Australia does not have any kind of international, national, or regional trail network as far as I know, so it's totally moot. It has individual long distance trails, but they don't form a network, as the distances are just too great. We have local networks (ie, trails that form a genuine network within a national park). > > Frankly, I see this as no problem at all. When I first visited the > site, It took be about two seconds flat to twig to that aspect. I think > it's fine like it is. You've got to zoom in considerably to see the > LCNs anyway - not that there are many yet. You mean LWNs? I found when I mapped the overland as RWN, I had to zoom in a long way to see it. Whereas it "should" show up at a national level - it's nationally significant. But I'm repeating myself. > > Overall, a similar situation arises with bicycle networks, and here NCN, > RCN and LCN tags seem to have been applied largely on whimsy. Canberra > has (in my opinion) no NCNs, one or two RCNs, and lots of LCNs. But > have a look at the rendering on www.opencyclemap.org It's a dog's > breakfast. > > In fact, most of the LCNs on the north side of the lake are ways I've > tagged as such. I haven't changed anyone's NCN or RCN tags. I wrote up proposed guidelines for LCN/RCN. My preferred scheme is that major trails more than 20km long or so, and all rail trails, are RCN, while LCN are basically local council routes. The ideal scheme is one where a map of a given area has a good balance. Look at melbourne: http://opencyclemap.org/?zoom=10&lat=-37.88113&lon=145.13056&layers=B000 Almost all of those RCNs are major named trails, like the Bay Trail, Lilydale-Warburton Rail Trail, Federation Trail, etc. Maybe there are too many shorter ones (ie, Rosstown Rail Trail), and some could be downgraded. Maybe non-urban rail trails should be upgraded to NCN, to make them stand out more. The point, again, is that we don't *have* a genuine network. We're fortunate in melbourne that at least the trails do form a network, but it's not managed at such. There are no route codes, no central authority,etc. So we in OSM have to come up with our own scheme that maps onto the British LCN/RCN/NCN scheme. Steve _______________________________________________ Talk-au mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
