On 10 July 2010 10:15, James Livingston <li...@sunsetutopia.com> wrote:
> If you have imported data you got from someone else (other than public 
> domain), you can't legally agree to the CTs. Since I've imported some data 
> into OSM under my main account, I can't strictly click I Agree on that 
> account unless the changesets are moved to a different account.

This is just semantics, it isn't that useful to give exceptions to the
TCs. Otherwise those with exceptions, especially if they supply large
amounts of data, would be able to hold OSM hostage at a future point
in time.

> The big one in Europe is AND. Presumably they are going to get an exemption 
> to the CTs, because they're definitely not going to agree to them for the 
> same reason our governments aren't.

Which is nearly pointless trying to enforce the TCs on everyone, if
large data suppliers will be exempt, all that needs to happen is
include a small snippet about attribution and everyone is in the
clear.

> More important than losing data we wouldn't otherwise have, if losing data 
> that has replaced older stuff. Various people have gone around replacing the 
> old PGS coastline with ABS-derived coastline - someone is going to have to go 
> and re-import the PGS stuff if we lose CC-BY data. I know I've replaced a 
> bunch of Yahoo-imagery derived data with stuff based on CC-BY data.

Not necessarily, we now have nearmap to draw upon as well,
alternatively there is also SRTM that could be used.

> If OSM does go ODbL, I'm tempted to propose PD re-licensing sometime after it 
> settled down a bit (but not too settled) just to stir things up. From memory, 
> someone has quoted 70% of people at SotM the other year as being happy to 
> have their work PD - we only need a vote of OSMF (presumably >50% majority) 
> and two thirds of "active mappers".

70% of ~230 people isn't exactly a good sample size, that isn't even
10% of active mappers, and some of those for PD would be just as happy
with cc-by, as I see it, things are pretty much committed to some form
of attribution license, I don't see PD happening if for no other
reason than to prevent <Insert favourite commercial mapping company>
from just taking without giving back.

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