Don't know how I can reply to someone who explicitly declares they don't want to change their mind or debate.
In amongst the vitriol is perhaps a nugget that's worth responding to, this idea that somehow everyone on talk-au is 80n's puppet, is of course absurd. Unless you prove this isn't just another puppet email account however, I have no reason to believe "all blokes" isn't just yet another email address for John smith, Anthony or friends are hiding behind. Steve stevecoast.com On Jul 8, 2011, at 0:51, All Blokes <[email protected]> wrote: > I have not had very much to say on this but I have been reading the posts > fairly closely. > I would not in any way presume to speak for any other Australians other than > myself, but I object most strenuously to the implication that I have in some > way been "perverted by 80n or any other person at all. when I first heard of > the licence change and how it was being done I didnt like it .... I had not > even read a post against it at that stage.... and I didn't post one either . > I make my own mind up. > I'm just a dumb busted a*se bulldozer driver so Im sure you would be able to > out debate me on this steve but mate winning the debate does not mean that > you are right. > I'm not entering into a debate about the pros and cons of this licence > against that licence. I don't want to have my mind changed. I've made it > myself and if I change it I will do that myself too. I have not signed up for > any other mapping group yet. Time is an issue for me at the moment and I > figure I can wait and see what happens anyway. I'm sad to see that OSM has > become what it is but I am not interested in being involved with the > organisation as it currently is. > > I have not talked to anyone on the phone or in the pub about OSM or FOSM > I think your time zone differences excuse is rubbish frankly. > I think your threat to "come out to Australia and debate this in the pub with > 80n as if that would sway people frankly is pretentious.... like you think a > lot of people care so much about your point of view to come??? Come on .... > just pinch yourself as you read that, Steve so that you have a reality > check..... You definitely have your best Australian audience right now. If > you care to come out you will be welcome but if you want to debate 80n this > forum is your best chance and It does not appear, to me FWITW that you are > doing so well at making your points against him. > Like I said I'm not some great orator and I'm not even very experienced > about OSM but I don't like the way it has been taken or where it has gone > to. > Regards, > Paul. > "You've been very successful at perverting certain sections of the > community, Australia being a good example as the checks and balances of > normal community communication are harder because of the timezone > differences and costs of flying. Essentially, people in Australia don't > get to hear from the rest of us on the phone or in the pub and we let > you spam the lists for a long time. So to an outsider it can look like > you're this rational guy who used to be on the board and so on. I've > heard about the various conspiracy theories you've been peddling > personally off-list too." > _______________________________________________ > Talk-au mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
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