Hi

Looks good.  I might just manage not to resort to chewing my own arm off to 
survive. 

Get the feeling that relentless pressure from many will get the walls to 
crumble. So I will be the first assault with my trumpet. 

Cheers
Brett  capable of proving that a musical instrument can be an instrument of 
terror. 

On 11/09/2012, at 9:30 PM, "Michael Collinson" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Brett,
> 
> Your email prompted me to create something I have been meaning to do for a 
> while: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/GettingPermission
> 
> Hope it helps. Else, if you think meeting Vogon poetry [1] with Vogon poetry 
> would be better, the License Working Group can help if you can get contact 
> details and links to what the data is and how it is licensed.
> 
> Mike
> Proud Vogon Bard
> 
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vogon
> 
> 
> On 11/09/2012 10:59, Brett Russell wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ian
>> 
>> Um?  Writing to a bureaucracy and reading their response thrills almost as 
>> much an month long recital of Vogon poetry.  But will give the Minister a 
>> shot once I work out the approach.  Tempted by something along the lines of 
>> "During the Second World War Britain made great attempts to keep place names 
>> secert.  Can you please tell (insert state naming registry authority) that 
>> the second world war is over."
>> 
>> Something tells me that Minister will not mind but the mapping authorities 
>> might come under pressure from the commercial mappers to hold this 
>> information back.  Stay tune but in the intervening ice age the lakes I have 
>> madly been mapping are like to have change.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> 
>> 
>> > From: [email protected]
>> > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:49:46 +1000
>> > Subject: Re: [talk-au] Getting is right
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > CC: [email protected]
>> > 
>> > On 11 September 2012 12:42, Brett Russell <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > 
>> > > I have been looking at few commercial mapping products closely and it is 
>> > > interesting to see the errors.
>> > 
>> > In the cities it seems not so bad, but google maps on minor roads
>> > outside of major urban centres is a work of fiction.
>> > 
>> > > But I am curious that using the List in Tassie to check names is wrong? 
>> > > It is a Government service and one that actually "forces "
>> > > name changes such as the removable of possessive names and even names it 
>> > > does not like. Russell Fallls for example was not
>> > > correct but it subsequently decreed to be. The government surveyor 
>> > > stuffed that up many years ago.
>> > 
>> > The Tasmanian Government clearly claims copyright.
>> > 
>> > Why not write a nice letter to the General Manager, Information and
>> > Land Services. Set out that what OSM is, and ask for permission to
>> > check names against the LIST, and release the resulting data under a
>> > free and open licence. Say they will be attributed if they wish at
>> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors.
>> > 
>> > If they say yes, we have explicit permission. If they say no, then
>> > you probably weren't allowed to begin with.
>> > 
>> > Ian.
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