I've always taken the reference to "urban" in "Urban Footpaths and Cycleways" and "non urban" in "Bush Walking and Cycling Tracks" as just to help the reader understand the type of feature relavent to that section. I've never taken it as a limitation on the locations where tags can be applied or not applied.
On 4/06/2014 10:48 AM, David Clark wrote: This is what I'd suggest is added to the Australian Tagging Guidelines wiki if there is no objection. (This is a simplification of what is at [1]http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface ). Add to both sections: * Urban Footpaths and Cycleways * Bush Walking and Cycling Tracks ---start------------------------ Paths for non-motorised use (highway=footway; highway=path) should always be tagged with [2]surface given that there is no default for such paths. [3]surface=paved is non-specific and covers the specific tags of sealed, tarmac, asphalt, bitumen, concrete. [4]surface=unpaved is treated as the opposite of paved, specific tags are dirt, earth, ground, grass, gravel, metal, sand, wood. ---end------------------------ What do you think? All the best, David _______________________________________________ Talk-au mailing list [5][email protected] [6]https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au The present 'guidelines' are good in relating tags to the legal things. They are not good for the mapper. And they separate things on location rather than what they are. For a guide for mappers and in use I'd prefer highway=footway A paved path intended for pedestrians. Defaults; surface = paved; foot=yes, bicycle=state specific ... mostly permissive (child/children under 12 + accompanying adult/s, width =1.2 meters highway=path An unpaved path intended for pedestrians. Defaults;surface = unpaved; foot=yes, bicycle=yes, width =2 meters highway=cycleway A path intended for cyclists. Defaults; foot=no, bicycle=yes, width =2 meters; surface = paved Thus the difference between footpath and path becomes the surface rather than the location. The defaults should cover the majority thus easing the tagging load. ------------------------ The difference between 'paved' and 'unpaved' .. consider a rock surface .. if it is natural then 'unpaved' .. if layed out/treated then 'paved'.... it has much to do with the finish i.e. smooth or rough. _______________________________________________ Talk-au mailing list [7][email protected] [8]https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au References 1. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface 2. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface 3. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface 4. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface 5. mailto:[email protected] 6. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au 7. mailto:[email protected] 8. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
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