From Daniel Silk on the Slack chat for Australian mapping:
>I would just reply and reiterate that they do not need to provide the
data under a different license, but simply sign a waiver that clarifies
some minor license differences and grants explicit permission for use.
Is there a list of government departments that have signed one of these
waivers?
> I work for LINZ... ours is on the OSM wiki:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/8/83/OSM_waiver_-_LINZ.pdf
You could also interpret "It is our belief that a CC:BY licence is
sufficient for use of our data." as permission.
On 19/01/18 15:38, Jonathon Rossi wrote:
> The Department will not provide the data under an Open Database
license. It is our belief that a CC:BY licence is sufficient for use
of our data.
Am I missing something, I didn't think we were asking anyone to
relicense their data under the ODbL, just to accept our understanding
of one clause (Section 3(a)(1)) and waive another (Section
2(a)(5)(B)). Are DNRM misunderstanding what we are requesting?
The second line of the waiver says:
> [Entity] waives Section 2(a)(5)(B) of the CC BY 4.0 license as to
OpenStreetMap and its users with the understanding that the Open
Database License 1.0 requires open access or parallel distribution of
OpenStreetMap data.
Section 2(a)(5)(B) says:
> No downstream restrictions. You may not offer or impose any
additional or different terms or conditions on, or apply any Effective
Technological Measures to, the Licensed Material if doing so restricts
exercise of the Licensed Rights by any recipient of the Licensed Material.
Aren't we (OSMF) just asking the copyright owner to waive their rights
to this clause to allow downstream users of the collective OSM data so
that for example it could be put on a Bluray disc. Their data would
still be CCBY licensed, and the OSM data would be a mix of ODbL and
CCBY licensed data?
/cc Simon Poole
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 3:19 PM Jonathon Rossi <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I also want to make use of the QLD DCDB and was going to start a
new thread on the mailing list about it today to work out how to
get out of this stalemate after Andrew Davidson informed me last
week.
It appears Andrew Harvey just recently had great luck with
Victoria DELWP signing the waiver and on a corporate letterhead.
AndrewH was that luck and are there any insights that you could
assist us with here that might help us convince QLD DNRM?
Jono
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 2:42 PM Andrew Davidson
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
It's a known problem with a difference of opinion between the
Queensland Government and OSM as to licence compatibility. See
this thread for example:
https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg10883.html
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 3:34 PM, Satuim <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hey everyone,
I recently asked for permission to use a CC-BY 4.0 dataset
but got rejected. The dataset I want to use is fairly
important (boundaries for suburbs and counties for QLD).
Here is the response I got:
The Department will not provide the data under an Open
Database license. It is our belief that a CC:BY
licence is sufficient for use of our data.
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