On 12/06/18 13:05, nwastra wrote:
There is expected to be improved gps accuracy in a few years time in Australia but unsure if usual gps units used by the public will show improved results but I expect they will.
http://www.ga.gov.au/news-events/news/latest-news/ceo-statement-on-budget-2018-19

Government talk 'a few years time' = beyond our next election. Could be 10 years ... or never.


On 12 Jun 2018, at 12:56 PM, Andrew Harvey <andrew.harv...@gmail.com <mailto:andrew.harv...@gmail.com>> wrote:

If you use RTK https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real-time_kinematic you should get centimeter accuracy, but expect to pay $10k+.

https://www.swiftnav.com <https://www.swiftnav.com/> seems like a cheaper option but not sure if it works in Australia and it not a consumer device, seems they just sell the boards. ...once you obtain sub-meter accuracy, keep in mind the whole continent is moving so even if you had no error in your GPS, a node someone entered in OSM in 2007 from GPS would be almost a meter out from someone entering it into OSM today.

The SBAS trial was only aviable to selected people as part of the trial, does anyone know if it'll will work on regular devices, or will we need to run additional software, for Android, iOS?

On 12 June 2018 at 12:39, Alex Sims <a...@softgrow.com <mailto:a...@softgrow.com>> wrote:

    Hi,

    I’m really wanting to have better accuracy from GPS for use with
    Openstreetmap. I can use survey marks and a laser rangefinder,
    but having a portable GPS would make so much easier to fix errors
    where objects have been armchair mapped or even GPS mapped with
    errors up to 3 meters.


Ha. 3 meters is the 'best' you might get. Typically it is 10 meters. And both those measurements are at 1 sigma.


    I have tried three approaches

      * QZSS – I can see this on my Android mobile phone but it
        doesn’t seem to be used. It seems as though I need a Japanese
        market device and even then I’m not sure I’ll get an increase

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasi-Zenith_Satellite_System

      * Galileo – looks promising but when I’ve tested on supported
        devices (friends who have recent phones) the accuracy isn’t
        delivered. Further investigation shows that there aren’t
        enough satellites in service yet most of the day to give 4
        visible. (Using GNSS View http://qzss.go.jp/en/ English text)
      * Lastly the SBAS trial from Geoscience Australia -
        
http://www.ga.gov.au/scientific-topics/positioning-navigation/positioning-for-the-future/satellite-based-augmentation-system
        
<http://www.ga.gov.au/scientific-topics/positioning-navigation/positioning-for-the-future/satellite-based-augmentation-system>
        - nothing magical has happened with any of the consumer grade
        devices I have access to. Also not sure how to test on an
        Android device if it is being used.


    Has anyone obtained sub-meter accuracy from any of these
    approaches, it must be possible?

    Please discuss.

Theoretically possible. But
1) is it implemented - ie available for use.
2) are units available?
3) what accuracy is available at a 'realistic' price for consumer use?

Don't hold your breath.

You noticed the improvement with the inclusion of the Russian Satellites? ..
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